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Tom Jorgenson

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 6:36pm
Another face eating attack?
Zombie dust is getting scary.
Or are we somehow manifesting our memes?
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Kevin Connolly

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New Jersey
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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 6:57pm
Not to worry. The sale of Zombie Bullets are at an all time high.
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seadog93

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 8:47pm
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On 2012-06-07 18:36, Tom Jorgenson wrote:
Another face eating attack?
Zombie dust is getting scary.
Or are we somehow manifesting our memes?
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For real!?
Was it 'bath salts' again?
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Kevin Connolly

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New Jersey
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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 9:04pm
Bullet story is real.
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/06/07/zombie-bullets-in-high-demand-following-flesh-eating-attacks/
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Woland

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 9:26pm
Hornady is a highly reputable company. I would stake my life on any of their products.
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gdw

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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 11:09pm
Yet another terrible result of the drug war. I know that's gonna rile people up and confuse them, and they'll say these are examples of why we need MORE focus on the drug war. It's all very sad in the end.
March 22, 2011, our beautiful baby girl, Evelyn, was born.
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atouchofmagic1

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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 7:02am
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On 2012-06-07 23:09, gdw wrote:
Yet another terrible result of the drug war. I know that's gonna rile people up and confuse them, and they'll say these are examples of why we need MORE focus on the drug war. It's all very sad in the end.
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I agree, you know there are drugs out there that we all know are illegal (Marijuana,Cocaine,LSD, Ecstasy) and of coarse the list goes on.
Now we are in a position where these people are going and buying this synthetic **** sold in head shops, gas stations and other places because they feel its a legal substitute.
I know you guys must have seen these things little baggies hanging in a gas station near all the water pipes and such.... I read an article yesterday about a gas station attendant who says "Everyone from 16 to 75 was and is buying this stuff, they feel like its the legal way to take the edge off"
He also said "Everyone from Bums to Lawyers".
Its scary when you think about it....
Whatever happened to the good ol' days when you could smoke a joint and eat a whole bag of Doritos..
Not Smoke some synthetic legal crack and eat a whole guys Face........
Weird.....
-Bobby
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gdw

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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 8:49am
Exactly Bobby. Not to mention how prohibition leads to the development of harder, much worse, drugs like meth. If you're already doing something "illegal" you're gonna wanna get as much bang for your buck. If you have to go to some risky place/guy for your pot, well THAT'S where the "gateway" is. Not the drug itself, but the environment the prohibition creates.
Hell, cigarettes and alcohol are much more of a gateway than pot, in many ways also due to "prohibition." That is the prohibition to youths. Not that I'm saying kids should be smoking and drinking, same as I'm not saying they should be shooting dope, but the prohibition makes it so much worse, and puts those who ARE going to do these things, and they ARE going to do them, in much more dangerous situations.
March 22, 2011, our beautiful baby girl, Evelyn, was born.
It's a brave new world, get with it, or get out of the way.
Man has evolved, "god" is extinct.
I won't forget you Robert.
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critter

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Spokane, WA
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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 9:53am
So has anybody ever gotten someone with schizophrenia really high on weed and locked themselves in a room with them?
No? Good. My advice is- don't.
I throw stuff.
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gdw

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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 11:09pm
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On 2012-06-08 09:53, critter wrote:
So has anybody ever gotten someone with schizophrenia really high on weed and locked themselves in a room with them?
No? Good. My advice is- don't.
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Have you?
Sounds like a bad idea.
Now, that's not to say there isn't something in the plant that could help schizophrenics:
http://healthland.time.com/2012/05/30/marijuana-compound-treats-schizophrenia-with-few-side-effects-clinical-trial/
March 22, 2011, our beautiful baby girl, Evelyn, was born.
It's a brave new world, get with it, or get out of the way.
Man has evolved, "god" is extinct.
I won't forget you Robert.
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landmark

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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 11:42pm
Despite marijuana's generally benign effects, from what I've seen, schizophrenia and marijuana are not a great mix. Definitely aggravates the symptoms.
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critter

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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 11:50pm
I've read several studies indicating that smoking grass can exacerbate schizophrenia and several other mental illnesses.
Glenn, your link supports this in mentioning the effects of THC.
And while I have not personally given weed to someone with schizophrenia, I have been around people with schizophrenia both when they were high and when they weren't. They were quite terrifying when high.
Schizophrenia is kind of an area of personal interest to me for reasons I will not elaborate upon here.
It is my strong belief that marijuana in its natural form is contra-indicated for this condition.
I will be interested to see how things pan out with that specific compound in repeated trials though.
I only brought it up to illustrate that everybody reacts differently to any drug and one person's harmless buzz is another person's decent into Hell.
I throw stuff.
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tommy

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Posted: Jun 9, 2012 12:24am
Pot is without doubt an harmful drug and as for driving on it that is or can be a very dangerous thing to do. Legally I would treat much like booze.
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critter

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Posted: Jun 9, 2012 1:04am
I misspelled "descent."
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gdw

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Posted: Jun 9, 2012 6:41am
Landmark and Crittet, yes. Very true. That's why I mentioned "something in the plant" referring to the compound, not to imply smoking it would be good for someone with schizophrenia, as mentioned in the linked article.
March 22, 2011, our beautiful baby girl, Evelyn, was born.
It's a brave new world, get with it, or get out of the way.
Man has evolved, "god" is extinct.
I won't forget you Robert.
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Tom Jorgenson

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Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:25am
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On 2012-06-08 23:42, landmark wrote:
Despite marijuana's generally benign effects, from what I've seen, schizophrenia and marijuana are not a great mix. Definitely aggravates the symptoms.
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A friend has a close relative who has Schizophrenia, and he's definitely sane when not using weed, definitely not sane when he is using it.
He had definite preferences to certain strains, and avoided other strains. He was very sensitive to the specific effects (up, down, happy, angry, sad, focussed, scatter-thought, etc) of the specific strains...more than the normal person would be.
Weed seemed to expand his spectrum of perceptions beyond a healthy control.
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critter

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Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:58am
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On 2012-06-09 06:41, gdw wrote:
That's why I mentioned "something in the plant" referring to the compound, not to imply smoking it would be good for someone with schizophrenia, as mentioned in the linked article.
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Pretty sure I acknowledged that in my reply. Not that you said I didn't.
I throw stuff.
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gdw

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Posted: Jun 9, 2012 2:21pm
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On 2012-06-09 11:58, critter wrote:
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On 2012-06-09 06:41, gdw wrote:
That's why I mentioned "something in the plant" referring to the compound, not to imply smoking it would be good for someone with schizophrenia, as mentioned in the linked article.
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Pretty sure I acknowledged that in my reply. Not that you said I didn't.
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Yeah, sorry. Just wanted to clarify that I wasn't advocating smoking pot for schizophrenics.
March 22, 2011, our beautiful baby girl, Evelyn, was born.
It's a brave new world, get with it, or get out of the way.
Man has evolved, "god" is extinct.
I won't forget you Robert.
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