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The Amazing Pog Veteran user 372 Posts 
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Very nice DL on that YouTube. I must put in more practice now ...
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p-n_junction New user 75 Posts
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I don't think that perfect DL exists whatsoever.
I mean if DL and SingleL looks virtually the same in your hands than it's the best. So, if you satisfied with the method that you're currently using, what's the reson for searching something else? |
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Roger Kelly Inner circle Kent, England 3332 Posts
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That's about the best I've ever seen Steven.
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Magic-Daniel Inner circle Denmark 1328 Posts
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I really like the look of Ron Bauer's TTT, but I feel like I have to adjust the deck too much to get into the right grip.
I prefer to be able just to pick the deck up and without any adjustment being able to do my double. I myself do a combination of a strike and push off double in the same action. |
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Eric Caldwell Regular user Kentucky 156 Posts
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What are the main categories of DL's? I've heard of push- over and strike DL's. Also, what are the visual differences between the different DL categories?
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts
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On 2012-06-10 22:27, dman11 wrote: Used to be a free download, possibly on Ron Bauer's web site: http://www.thinklikeaconjuror.com , though I didn't see it there just now. I guess he took it down since I downloaded it a couple years ago. Jim |
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Steven Youell V.I.P. 3866 Posts
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I've done the only authorized video tutorial on Ron's T.T.T. He's never offered one on his site.
His lecture notes though, have an excellent description and they should be available again soon. SEY |
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DelMagic Special user 721 Posts
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You can get the lecture notes from several sites. For example:
http://www.elmwoodmagic.com/full/books-r......8121.htm |
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dman11 Inner circle USA 1068 Posts
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My local shop has ordered the Lecture notes for me, I should be picking them up tomorrow !
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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts
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My all time favorite is the one Doc Eason uses in his Bar DVDs. Not sure of the name.
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AndyLuka Elite user Milwaukee, Wisconsin 440 Posts
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On 2012-06-14 02:46, p-n_junction wrote: I totally agree. I love talking technique and theory on all levels of magic. A typical mistake we as magicians make is looking too far into things. I understand the desire to come up with the "perfect" DL. However, regardless on which method you use for this common sleight, if your SL mirrors your DL then you already have the perfect method. At least that is the way I interpret Dai Vernon's famous phrase "The devil is in the details." When it comes to the DL there are only two things I am concerned about. 1.) Make sure your DL and SL look exactly the same 2.) Do your best to avoid (or mask) any "extra" movement (get Ready’s) I know this stuff may seem basic, but let’s not re-invent the wheel guys.
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Steven Youell V.I.P. 3866 Posts
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On 2012-06-15 10:26, dman11 wrote: Make sure they're the UPDATED and EXPANDED Set. SEY |
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1670 Posts
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I think Paul Daniels once said that the perfect DL is dependant on the trick you're using it in. The most important thing, apart from good technique, is to be consistent; you real lifts should look the same as your DLs.
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eatonmagic Special user Orlando, FL 737 Posts
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The best double I've ever seen was Dan Block's. Wow! Dan lives around the Buffalo area and is probably one of the most talented cardicians I've ever met.
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dman11 Inner circle USA 1068 Posts
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On 2012-06-15 16:27, Steven Youell wrote: Yes, it is indeed. Great writing and drawings ! I'm going to look into more of his stuff |
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Justin W. Loyal user Kansas 237 Posts
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I've never cared much for the look of the Stuart Gordon turnover. It always appears to be a little too studied and contrived. This depends upon the context in which you're turning over a card. If you're going to do a Rosini-style revelation of a card, then of course it's going to look like a studied action. Both flippant and studied actions have their place in a performance, which pretty much negates the idea that there's a tangible and singular "naturalness." |
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NicholasD Inner circle 1458 Posts
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In my opinion, a Rosini style revelation should look slow and studied, but it's done on purpose with only the card to be revealed. IMO, the Stuart Gordon turnover almost screams "look how clever I am." Every time I see someone do it, I get the feeling that I'm watching a balancing act. I'm not implying that a double turnover can't be done slowly, but personally, I'd just opt for another method.
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Justin W. Loyal user Kansas 237 Posts
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I don't equate fluid and elegant with cleverness--at least not in this instance. But to each his own.
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Steven Youell V.I.P. 3866 Posts
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On 2012-06-18 20:19, Justin W. wrote: C'mon man, that's not fair. Whether the move is "fluid and elegant" is a subjective judgement. Accusing NicholasD of equating "fluid and elegant" with his perceived "defect" is therefore unfair and very bad reasoning. SEY |
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts
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I'm not fit to tie the shoes of some of the card guys on this forum, but IMO you can't lose by learning a whole bunch of ways of doing a DL. That way no one can associate a certain visible move with the technique.
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