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drbuzzard New user Manchester, UK 45 Posts |
After the great responses to my question about flipper coins (http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=474356&forum=202&28) I thought I’d ask for advice about copper/silver coin routines.
I just bought a very nice Barber and Victorian Penny copper/silver set and am looking to get the most out of it. My favourite routine going back many years is Roth’s Copper/Silver Classic with the finish in spectator’s hand. But I’d appreciate suggestions for alternatives; can anyone suggest some DVDs and books where I might find the state-of-the-art in copper/silver transpositions and other routines with the c/s coin? |
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langston3711 Loyal user Cumming, GA 218 Posts |
I love to do Dan Watkins Double Take Transposition from his Coin Man Walking DVD. It's a great 2 phase transposition routine done almost completely in the spectators hands.
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drbuzzard New user Manchester, UK 45 Posts |
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On 2012-08-09 15:51, langston3711 wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. I have that DVD and will check that routine out. |
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Welcome to the Café buzz.
I know you said books or DVDS, but check downloads too. With that, you might have a look at my JumpMandu. It's a fun effect with some very visual changes to it. One of my pet effects, I carry it with me everyday. http://vinnymarini.com/download/jump.html *And here's some views on it from the Café: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......&forum=3 I also have an effect called Copper/Silver SURPRISE! on my Short Pockets download: http://vinnymarini.com/download/shortpockets.html And think I also have something for this on my KABOOM! coin trick collection too: http://vinnymarini.com/download/kaboom.html
*Check out my latest: Gifts From The Old Country: A Mini-Magic Book, MBs Mini-Lecture on Coin Magic, The MB Tanspo PLUS, MB's Morgan, Copper Silver INC, Double Trouble, FlySki, Crimp Change - REDUX!, and other fine magic at gumroad.com/mb217magic
"Believe in YOU, and you will see the greatest magic that ever was." -Mb |
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
-Rannie Raymundo- aka The Boss aka The Manila Enforcer www.rannieraymundo.com www.tapm.proboards80.net |
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Wes65 Inner circle I've said very little in 1219 Posts |
Rannie, yours works great as an opening for Marion's Jumpmandu or as a substitute for the first transpo or of course as a nice quick transpo by it self.
As for Jumpmandu.... One of my favorites.
Wes
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David Neighbors V.I.P. 4910 Posts |
You mite tey my triple spellbound Routine From my book Coinjurering!
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andrelimantara Special user Surabaya, Indonesia 871 Posts |
Hi there,
You can purchase New York Seminar coin magic on copper silver coin plot vol 3, 4,5. There are tons of material that will keep you busy for a while Of ourse you can purchase some material from magician folks right here. Rannie, Mb217, and of couse mr.Dave Neighbors cant go wrong with them Cheers Andre
"Good performance comes from good practice, Great performance comes from the heart - Andre Limantara"
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mystre71 Inner circle martinsburg west virginia 1693 Posts |
Curtis Kam's "Coercive Purse" from his Palms of Steel 2 IMO is one of the best C/S routines out there. Tommy Wonder had some nice things to say about it in Stephen Minch's "Spectacle" book. Tommy's routine "Counterfeiter's Spellbound," which makes use of a C/S coin can be found on page 71 of the same book.
Kainoa Harbottle released a book on routine using a C/S coin "Coinapalooza 2 International Deception" It has eight routine within it, and even one by yours truly There is also a DVD I think it's called "Attack of the C/S coin" or something like that. I haven't seen it, so I couldn't say whether or not if its any good. Hope this helps, Joe
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Atom3339 Inner circle Spokane, WA 3242 Posts |
Apocalypse is full of Spellbound routines. Smart to use gimmicked AND ungimmicked coins.
It's also smart to learn Al Schneider's Spellbound moves and the Spellbound moves from Rubinstein's Encyclopedia Of Coin Magic. And Roth's teaching, of course.
TH
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
At some point it helps to figure out how the make the magic register for audiences on the coin transposition trick.
here's one no-skill way. Start with Roth's routine but make a point of not showing the coins on both sides. Then explain that you use an extra coin and take out another silver or copper. Now do Curtis Kam's Inferential (he actually wanted to call it 'sleazy' at one point - but thanks to Harry it's got a more highbrow title) ... but make a point of seeming to turn over each coin just before you you carefully place it in their hand. Use the extra silver (or copper) (really it's a */*) as the marker coin to announce remind them where each coin is. Make the magic happen. Have them open their hands to reveal the transposition. If one or both of them are was-acres you can enjoy the fun as they turn over the coins and have that "uh-oh" moment. Serve to taste. That strategy of "up the garden path" can work in miniature in almost any copper and silver type routine. What you do with that moment is between you and your audiences.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Octopus Sun Special user Wiggle Wiggle 586 Posts |
Steve Dusheck's C/S transpo is what I've been working since that thread on him came up.
It's a real nice piece of magic. you end clean with the heat in the spec's hand. They have no clue at all. |
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
I have a C/S routine with multiple phases as a Transpo or Transportation (modified Gadabout Coins) that ends with a copper and silver in the spectator's hand -- the silver is extracted, leaving them the copper...
following form, the silver should return to their hand, but the hand is open to reveal Nothing! Their hand is empty! Those who believe it is impossible to do a "Vanish to Empty" in a spectator's hand can ignore this post. Anyone interested in the details can send a request to gusarimagic@comcast.net
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Russell Davidson Inner circle Hampshire, England 1108 Posts |
IMO you can't beat Roth's routine mentioned in the OP. Learning the main move will take some time to master but it is well worth it. Lovely subtle use of the gaff.
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
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On 2012-08-12 11:45, Octopus Sun wrote: Gotta agree with you here Sun, Dusheck's C/S Transpo is a marvelous effect and clearly revved-up the C/S genre and was genius for its time and still pretty darn slick even today. Such a simple little trick and handling but really amazes people to no end, looks like real magic. And its workings is the stuff of legends in the coin magic genre that brought about more great stuff that works upon the clever principle. Wonderful effect from an amazing magic creator that came up with tons of very good magic and still doing it today. Much respect to Steve Dusheck.
*Check out my latest: Gifts From The Old Country: A Mini-Magic Book, MBs Mini-Lecture on Coin Magic, The MB Tanspo PLUS, MB's Morgan, Copper Silver INC, Double Trouble, FlySki, Crimp Change - REDUX!, and other fine magic at gumroad.com/mb217magic
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drbuzzard New user Manchester, UK 45 Posts |
Many thanks for all the excellent replies.
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ixnay66 Inner circle Denver 1525 Posts |
I 2nd (or 3rd) the recommendation for Roth's routine.
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Octopus Sun Special user Wiggle Wiggle 586 Posts |
Been playing around with MB's "Tap, Wave, and Rub" since this thread came up, it's another C/S winner.
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WKM Regular user London Uk 139 Posts |
Just bought a set of these.... Looking forward to their arrival. A question,
I bought half dollar size, are they the same dimensions as a half dollar ?
Liam Ball AIMC*
The Gentleman Magician |
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Mobius303 Inner circle Lakewood, Ohio 1309 Posts |
@WKM
yes they are made from alf dolar sized coins so they work the same as a half dollar. Wild coin is also a fun routine to use a c/p coin. |
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