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espkeith Veteran user CT, USA 354 Posts |
Not to add to what is likely a huge list already, but you probably might want this as well, given that you do readings:
http://worldwidemagic.com/the-zen-system-epackage-ran-pink/ A slight learning curve, but definitely worth it, and you print your own cards so there's no risk of losing it. |
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Remarkable Marco Veteran user When I grow up, I want to have 355 Posts |
This thread has been inactive for a while, but I'll weigh and add Dreamweaver. Similar effect to Kioku's (but you perceive a dream instead of a memory), but uses only one card, so it's easier to fit in your wallet and use in different contexts as it does not require table space. I find it can be made stronger by departing from the published instructions and asking the spectator to look only at one side (if you own it, you know what I mean, I think). Fun to perform, and the theme gives you a perfect starting point for a cold reading.
Love Cards takes up some space (it's a 10-card set), but it is quite strong. also, I carry in my wallet 5 business cards inspired by What Goes Around in Larry Becker's Stunners Plus. I modified it a bit to make the workings literally invisible (the cards are completely and truly blank). It allows to involve up to 5 people in an experiment in body language, mind reading, graphology, intuition, or whichever presentation you want to give to an effect where you identify which spectator wrote on which card. |
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Brynmore13 Elite user Australia 485 Posts |
Between the lines by Michael Murray is pocket sized (if folded anyhow). It's similar to some of the S@nctum material, but a little easier way into this style of presentation.
All is perceived through the gate of the mind.
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Bard Loyal user 223 Posts |
I'm a bit of a traditionalist and detest the idea of strolling Mentalism for the most part even though I understand some of it and have actually done forms of it, such as the role of Wondering Reader and of course, using some table-side demonstrations prior to the show, in order to camouflage my pre-show work (a master of this is Jon Stetson. . . the guy is awesome when he works the tables).
When it comes to pocket stuffing . . . about the only things I carry is a John Rigg's butterfly in my shirt pocket and some pre-folded billets that just happen to be in my SUC case, which I occasionally use as a PW Table but it is very rare that I use it as designed. My reasoning is very simple; "Psychics" don't do tricks! e.g. we don't just happen to have a strange little book in our hands or pockets in order to do a book test (tell me this don't scream "MAGIC TRICK" and actually believe that's so). . . if I do a "book test" at a table or on the streets I'm doing it with THEIR book or Day Runner and no, that's not a boast, it is something every Mentalist has the ability to do if he/she just thinks about it. . . remember, what I carry and why I can make this happen, but then weigh the fact that I can't just rely on that Imp Pad or billets, I should be able to do such a thing clean, without all that stuff . . . again, if you really studied your Corinda you can do it! If I'm heading out and know I'll be in a social situation where I'm asked to "do something" I might have some loops on my wrist and my PK ring or a Himber Ring on my finger but that's rare . . . PK is being done way too much now days by admitted Magicians and as such it is difficult to sell it as a feat of Psychic prowess. . . and yes, that goes for the linking finger-bands as well but context goes a long way. I was taught by old timers most of whom believed that a real mentalists needs nothing more than maybe a nail writer in their pocket and everything else in their head. We should be able to work a full show with most any available paper or business card type material, some pens/pencils and that's it! A look at the history of Mentalism and we find that numerous performers did huge shows with little more than this, well into the 1970s. Why are we suddenly co-dependent on gadgets vs. memory & actual skill? It's something to consider. |
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Remarkable Marco Veteran user When I grow up, I want to have 355 Posts |
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"Psychics" don't do tricks! e.g. we don't just happen to have a strange little book in our hands or pockets in order to do a book test (tell me this don't scream "MAGIC TRICK" and actually believe that's so). . . if I do a "book test" at a table or on the streets I'm doing it with THEIR book In my other life I am a professor, and I ALWAYS carry a backpack or briefcase full of the strangest books with me! I am somehow expected to always have books with me, and when the other person does not have any (99% of the times), oh well, I guess we could use one of mine... This is for the "invisible" book tests (like MOABT, UF, etc). When it comes to books from parapsychology departments, it seems perfectly normal to me that a mentalist / mind reader would carry some around, precisely because are the tools of the trade (the way a literature professor carries literature around). I use lines such as "This is what I use for my daily training", "This is what they use at XYZ university to test ESP powers, so it should facilitate our experiemnt too." If a bit of tongue-in-cheek-ness seems necessary, I open with "You wouldn't believe the stuff one can find on ebay these days..." |
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Remarkable Marco Veteran user When I grow up, I want to have 355 Posts |
I also just got MindCast (after reading this thread), and it reminds me of Animalogic quite a bit. Comparing the 2: MindCast has the advantage you can shuffle the cards before the effect; Animalogic has the advantage you can justify the second run through better: "Now I'd like to activate your other side of the brain, so we are going to switch from words to pictures...". The Animalogic handling can be used for MindCast, but the opposite is not true - so MindCast is more versatile. However, the secret of the method is way better hidden in Animalogic than in MindCast, IMHO.
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Bard Loyal user 223 Posts |
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On 2013-09-26 10:07, Remarkable Marco wrote: In your case this makes sense due to the organic nature of things; you are known to have books with you at all times. I have the nasty habit of having notes written on all kinds of things stuffed into my pockets as well as a small notepad (butterfly) in my shirt pocket . . . and if I'm not carrying the aforementioned imp pad I have such pads pre-set for doing a series of routines. . . again, we're looking at something that is natural to my situation -- it's "organic" which is why it gets ignored. If however, I introduce a book like the Darkspell Grimoire from OUTLAW or TRINITY . . . I've gone too far, it doesn't make sense and would not fit 99.9% of anyone's typical situation. . . on the other hand, a student with a student's dictionary does make sense and could be exploited. I've not seen any but I know of a few ways to do a Book Test using a Kindle or similar Reader. To my mind this makes far more sense than lugging a book around and given the popularity of iPhone type systems, certain methods are adaptable to them as well, so in this example we have a logical source one need but apply a few brain cells in figuring out how to exploit said medium. I guess you could say that my argument would be more correctly stated by saying that what we use should make sense -- doing a PK Pencil or Pen is, for most of us, far more logical than PK Sharpie in that few of us have a need to carry a sharpie with us all the time . . . The other side of my argument is that we need to know more about foundation skills, especially when it comes to Mentalism technique, and not rely so much on gimmicks & devices. Take a week and visit a dozen or two Psychics and make a list as to how many of them have you write something down and then how many that have you write something down and put it into their wallet. . . I can assure you, the one that says that is a fraud. Too, it is exceptionally rare to find any Reader that asks you to write anything now days. I point this out in that we are "Psychic Entertainers" (especially if we are coming from the Bizarre side of things) and as such we are supposed to be striving towards believability, distancing ourselves as far as we can, from the appearance of possible trickery. Based on this point alone all those silly peek devices go out the window in that they will raise suspicion. There are two or three exceptions to this rule of course, but in general very few of those expensive toys are practical when it comes to what our primary illusion actually is -- to look as freaking real as possible. . . . at least that's how I was taught when it comes to this stuff. |
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Michael_MacDonald 1964 - 2016 Washington 2034 Posts |
Bard,
it really depends on the settings. if I am paid as a stroller to entertain family friendly, then I do not go for that real feel I go for the fun superficial play. on the other hand when I'm performing for the more intimate adult settings I do take it real.....as real as the character I'm playing is real. the key here is does your character use these items? can they be made to fit?... that said this thread was started for my fun strolling routines and has since evolved way beyond what was started here. I'm not even sure how this thread was resurrected lol. |
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Brynmore13 Elite user Australia 485 Posts |
Michael, it came back to life after being exposed to a strange, glowing green chemical that was stolen from a secret military base by over-zealous animal rights activists ;-)
I just got Zoltar, Between the Lines, Sleuth and Test Conditions to add to the collection. Have you used Zoltar much, and what do you think of it?
All is perceived through the gate of the mind.
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Michael_MacDonald 1964 - 2016 Washington 2034 Posts |
I love zoltar! its very simple and really fun. think of it as a mini kader reading that can go anywhere with you. I use it for micro readings on the go. as for being a trick I have never used that function and really think it would ruin it for me lol
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Bard Loyal user 223 Posts |
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On 2013-09-27 17:00, Michael_MacDonald wrote: Sorry, but in my book that's the sort of stuff that hurts Mentalism in that it comes off as a bunch of family friendly magic tricks. I stopped doing magic in the late 1980s so that I could do effective Mentalism and that included my stopping the whole "family friendly" side of things. Not saying that my show isn't suitable for a family, only that my presentation focuses on the more mature (25+ year old) type family setting in that I don't feel that Mentalism is proper for the under 16 crowd. . . and I emphasize, these are my personal views based on how I was taught to look at the craft so long ago. My shows are fun and full of drool humor and levity, depending on the venue they have some very theatrical trimmings in fact -- costumes, sets, other cast members and so forth. But even with all those elements the material is done in a way that comes off as real . . . sometimes real enough so as to manifest wee beneath a person's seat. Strolling/close-up Mentalism to me, has a specific purpose and that is not to show off my slight of hand skills by doing card tricks that look like something paranormal. In most instances a strolling gig for me starts off with simple demonstrations and interactions and evolves to doing Readings; more than not, this is what the public wants to see me do . . . or what they want to experience, not all the other stuff. That is why most of the gigs I take in the strolling mode are now designated as being a Strolling Reader/Psychic. . . and when it comes to that, I just have an issue about doing Readings for kids in that so few of them are mature enough to comprehend what it is that's going on. |
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Michael_MacDonald 1964 - 2016 Washington 2034 Posts |
Bard, I have seen this view many times in penny. and for those that are pure traditionalist mentalists I'm sure it fits well.
there are just a couple of points I feel that you have stepped over the line on here. !) you have never seen my performance nor know what I actually do during said performance, so any speculation on your part is just that...speculation. 2) view differ when you cross lines....not being a mentalist I am not confined by the purist views. I believe our art is bigger then the terms and conditions some choose to put on it. my only rules are that it must fit me. it must fit the character I am performing. I am a mystery entertainer not a mentalist. but all that aside this thread is about pocket and strolling mental effects that we like to carry. not about the ethics and rules of such so I would rather it get back on topic. again I'm still suprised it has resurfaced after a year lol |
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David Eichler Grammar Host Durham, ME 1780 Posts |
One of the wonderful aspects of the Spooky forum is that the ideas generated can help to expand the bizarre genre...not so much through 'thinking outside the box' but rather refusing to believe there is a box in the first place.
Best wishes to all, David |
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Godzilla Inner circle Tied & Untied Witches on 5316 Posts |
LOL
This is like... A Mentalist saying," He, thinks like a magician !" Now,Bizzarrist saying, " He,thinks like a mentalist !" We,are all just trying to entertain ! I,like the "No-Box" ! Magick, for me!
"If you watch Godzilla backwards, it's about a big ass lizard who helps rebuild a half burnt-down city, then moonwalks back into the ocean"
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Brynmore13 Elite user Australia 485 Posts |
Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum, What might be right for you, may not be right for some.Â
A man is born, he's a man of means. Then along come two, they got nothing but their jeans. But they got, Diff'rent Strokes. It takes, Diff'rent Strokes. It takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world. Everybody's got a special kind of story Everybody finds a way to shine, It don't matter that you got not alot So what, They'll have theirs, and you'll have yours, and I'll have mine. And together we'll be fine.... Because it takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world. Yes it does. It takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.
All is perceived through the gate of the mind.
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MatCult Inner circle 1518 Posts |
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drool humor You can never have enough jokes about salivation IMHO.
"Disbelief in magic can force a poor soul into believing in government and business."
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David Thiel Inner circle Western Canada...where all that oil is 4005 Posts |
How about a pendulum and the Carnie Tarot? Throw in some billets and you're set for some walkabout on the spooky side. MD for sure...and the new PE MOABT slides easily into your jacket pocket.
David
Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears. Bears will kill you.
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YitzhakNoDice Special user Portland, Oregon 517 Posts |
I have to plug David's ebooks (my favourite being Pendulum Magic: Routines for Mystery Performers). There is so many pocket routines you can devise using pendulum magic and David's books contain a number of really strong ones.
I'd also like to toss Chris Taylor's Pocket Printing Press into the ring. I carry mine all the time no matter where I'm going or what I'm doing. It can be very strong and can be played many ways depending on the situation. Consider playing it as mesmerism (my default approach).
A wise man's question contains half the answer. - Solomon ben Judah, Philosopher
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Michael_MacDonald 1964 - 2016 Washington 2034 Posts |
Once I get back on my feet I will have to pick up davids books. I am very limited in my pendulum work right now so I can use them.
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George Hunter Inner circle 2013 Posts |
Let me second Marco's enthusiasm for Paul Carnazzo's Dreamweaver effect, which I just received this week. I have studied it but have not yet performed it, but I have one question. Marco advises using just one side of the card, but I am inclined to use both. I can imagine a perceptive spectator sensing and approximating the method from just a one-side experience, while using both sides introduces some useful red-herring complexity.
But I'd like to know what guys who have performed it have learned. Besides, I think this is my 200th post on the Café! George |
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