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David Klass
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I've been tempted with this.
The only thing stoping me is my own hang up.

If a stranger asked me to put my pin code anywhere, whether that be in a phone or on a bit of paper, there is no way I would give them my real one.

Maybe that's just me, but is this tackled in the instructions/ routine?

It really would flag the method if a mentalist revealed the made up password I just gave them.
reignofsound
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You can say use someone else's date of birth instead of the pin
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As a fraud consultant in the credit card industry it frightens me how many people put their real pins in iunlock.

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On 2014-01-25 18:23, David Klass wrote:
I've been tempted with this.
The only thing stoping me is my own hang up.

If a stranger asked me to put my pin code anywhere, whether that be in a phone or on a bit of paper, there is no way I would give them my real one.

Maybe that's just me, but is this tackled in the instructions/ routine?

It really would flag the method if a mentalist revealed the made up password I just gave them.


So don't do the pin code part. Tell them to put in "another number, like an important year in your life or something." Personally I use the effect just to unlock people's phones, and skip over the pin code almost every time.
Jamie D
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I remember seeing a demo for this, does anyone know if it was in this thread? I can't seem to find it. Thanks everyone.
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Hi Jamie,

If you're on Facebook I'll let you have look around the group page for a few hrs to see if you like what you see. Maybe it will push you over the edge Smile
Or not.

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Jamie D
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That would be great Myke Smile
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Jamie, it really is incredible. Just about the only app I really like using. Just the reaction when they manage to unlock your phone after you mentally sent them the code is worth the cost alone and if you leaveit there, you already have a great trick. However, despite it being stupid, people will more often than not give you their pin number, dob and unlock code for their phone.

personally, I don't act on this knowledge (instead I keep it for the future) unless one or both of the following happen. 1) they say something like "I bet you cannot unlock my phone" or 2)when they enter the info on your phone, they are very secretive. In my mind either of these indicates that they have nosuspicion that an app is in play.

For years, I have shoulder surfed people I know and have a healthy list of pin numbers and phone unlocks stored in notes. What I do now is pretend to be that person and enter the info in to IUYM, so now I have this ever increase database of useful info to use at a suitable time in the future.
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On 2014-01-27 07:37, Paul S Wingham wrote:
Jamie, it really is incredible. Just about the only app I really like using. Just the reaction when they manage to unlock your phone after you mentally sent them the code is worth the cost alone and if you leaveit there, you already have a great trick. However, despite it being stupid, people will more often than not give you their pin number, dob and unlock code for their phone.

This is a point that a lot of people miss. I see a lot of posts saying things like "isn't it obvious when you unlock their phone after they put their code in". The reality is that them unlocking your phone is a great effect on its own merits and can stand alone, I get fantastic reactions although one person was so shocked they droped my phone. People sell padlocks just for this effect costing over 100 dollars and you then have to justify why you are carrying a padlock around.

After they unlock your phone everything else is a bonus. As Paul says, it is not uncommon for the spectator to actually challenge you to unlock their phone. It's also not that hard to get a second spectator to open the spectators phone with a little guidance. Let's say the spectators code is 7341.

Have a second spectator hold the first spectators phone, ask the first spectator to mentally send the code to the second spectator. You say to the second spectator "I'm getting an odd number what what number are you getting (it's either going to be 7 or 3 more likely 7 if they say 3 "yes I'm getting that for the second number too, I'm sensing the first number is also odd but a few higher, what do you think? Now they should give you the seven "ok put that in, and didn't you say the second number was 3, put that in too. I'm getting an even number now, slightly higher, what are you getting?..... Four I was getting a six but lets go with yours, put a 4 in, I'm getting another low number, odd again, what are you getting? One ok try that ..... Wow that's pretty amazing, you guys have a great connection.

Haha get the number 3768 and you are golden. Have fun with it jazz it up.

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Myke has a beautiful way of checking wether the unlock code is genuine before you go to unlock their phone. This allows you to test the water first!

This is honestly one of my all time favorite effects!

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Well I went for it myself. I've had a few hours to play around and I can see this being what most have said. Like any type of mentalism, it's the presentation that sells it. Looking forward to getting this out there and will post an update.

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Jamie D
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So I've had a chance to perform this in the real world a number of times now and will say that it simply is wonderful. The key is (like most mentalisim) the showmanship to make this work. Not once have I had someone suspect an app. The look itself is exactly like my home screen, nothing funny at all. As far as the reveal of their info goes, yes it's best to wait a bit but is not necessary. At that point I'll continue my presentation, ask a few questions then say, "let me try something with my intuition.

To be honest, the reactions are huge on this, I was very skeptical even after buying this but as I said above, it's the presentation and timing that you use that make this work. It's honestly my faveourit thing to do in an impromptu setting as it's right there ready to go. Nothing odd to carry around, just your phone and their thoughts.

If I had the money, I'd go for the other version as I feel that it's worth the price. The reactions really are that strong, maybe in the future, who knows. Great work Myke, this is a winner.

D
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Any news on pro?
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What news are you after?
reignofsound
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Think pro version can only be used on a jail broken phone?
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On 2014-02-09 13:30, reignofsound wrote:
Think pro version can only be used on a jail broken phone?


No this is not the case.

Works great, and just keeps getting better.

Steve
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I believe you need something else for the pro version which makes it that much mor superior. At the moment, I can't afford both expenses but I truly believe it would be worth it.
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Jamie D
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Used this again today, ran into a little issue. If they have a blackberry, the passcode is longer then 4 numbers. I ended up using there pin so no worries. Anyone else run into this at any point in time?
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Alright I just went back and read this entire thread. Some of it is downright hilarious. I understand that there was a non apple version of this for $300 that has become the "pro" version. And now there is a apple approved version for $75. Can someone please give me specifics to what the differences are? Actually if someone can PM me the specifics I really want to consider which one that I want. I have been an Android phone user but have recently bought an Ipad and I use it for a great deal of my show in different capacities.

Many thanks in advance

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reignofsound
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On 2014-02-09 13:54, Stephen Young wrote:
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On 2014-02-09 13:30, reignofsound wrote:
Think pro version can only be used on a jail broken phone?


No this is not the case.

Works great, and just keeps getting better.

Steve


So the pro version is on the App Store?
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