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magic8161
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In the beginning of this trick he does a count. what is that called? I would like to learn this. I can do the Emsley count on the second and third part but iam not sure about the opening part. Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_d-e_3SoGE
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Really? It looks different form the other two. I cant seem to crasp that one.
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Thanks Adam. Just ordered Advanced Card Control Series by Allan Ackerman #7 hope this helps.
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That's not an Elmsley at the beginning of NFW. I don't know the specific name but it is a 2 for 4 count.
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I think I learned it in Counts, Cuts, Moves and Subtlety... I could be wrong. Either way that book is awesome and you should buy it. It's usually like $10.
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All Elmsley (I just learned the trick) and the book mentioned by MAGICELAM is really good and yo can find it cheap on Amazon.
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It looks like a Vesser Count (which is an Elmsly Count from the Biddle grip). This guy in the video probably uses the Biddle grip due to the nature of the gimmick employed. It is taught in the Mentzer book, Counts, Cuts, Moves and Subtlety as well as many other places.
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I don't think it's vesser... because Vesser still shows the faces of three as four. I'm pretty sure he's only showing two jokers as four in this count.
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I don't know the name of the count, but if you'll pm me I'll explain how to do it. I know it's in the instructions, or at least when I got NFW back in the day it was, as an optional beginning. I never found it was needed. I always did an elmsley and one appeared to be face down. and I just said one of his friends wants to join him... that was #2, and then follow suit with three and four.
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