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magic8161 Regular user 132 Posts	Posted: Oct 22, 2012 08:01AM       In the beginning of this trick he does a count. what is that called? I would like to learn this. I can do the Emsley count on the second and third part but iam not sure about the opening part. Thanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_d-e_3SoGE
Poof-Daddy Inner circle Finally reached my goal of 1613 Posts	Posted: Oct 22, 2012 09:02AM       Opening is an elmsley www.shadowpest.wordpress.com <~~my cancer story Don't spend so much time trying not to die that you forget how to live
magic8161 Regular user 132 Posts	Posted: Oct 22, 2012 10:23AM       Really? It looks different form the other two. I cant seem to crasp that one.
AdamChance Special user 550 Posts	Posted: Oct 22, 2012 11:58AM       http://themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=484999&forum=201&12
magic8161 Regular user 132 Posts	Posted: Oct 22, 2012 03:18PM       Thanks Adam. Just ordered Advanced Card Control Series by Allan Ackerman #7 hope this helps.
MeetMagicMike Inner circle Gainesville Fl 1346 Posts	Posted: Nov 7, 2012 07:49PM       That's not an Elmsley at the beginning of NFW. I don't know the specific name but it is a 2 for 4 count. Magic Mike <BR>MeetMagicMike.com I took the Pledge
magicelam Veteran user Tennessee 358 Posts	Posted: Nov 7, 2012 11:12PM       I think I learned it in Counts, Cuts, Moves and Subtlety... I could be wrong. Either way that book is awesome and you should buy it. It's usually like $10. Mike
FightOnRon New user 15 Posts	Posted: Nov 11, 2012 08:52PM       All Elmsley (I just learned the trick) and the book mentioned by MAGICELAM is really good and yo can find it cheap on Amazon.
konjurer Veteran user Iowa 360 Posts	Posted: Nov 19, 2012 01:49PM       It looks like a Vesser Count (which is an Elmsly Count from the Biddle grip). This guy in the video probably uses the Biddle grip due to the nature of the gimmick employed. It is taught in the Mentzer book, Counts, Cuts, Moves and Subtlety as well as many other places. =========================================== Clever stuff goes here!
magicelam Veteran user Tennessee 358 Posts	Posted: Nov 19, 2012 05:20PM       I don't think it's vesser... because Vesser still shows the faces of three as four. I'm pretty sure he's only showing two jokers as four in this count. Mike
magicelam Veteran user Tennessee 358 Posts	Posted: Nov 19, 2012 05:26PM       I don't know the name of the count, but if you'll pm me I'll explain how to do it. I know it's in the instructions, or at least when I got NFW back in the day it was, as an optional beginning. I never found it was needed. I always did an elmsley and one appeared to be face down. and I just said one of his friends wants to join him... that was #2, and then follow suit with three and four. Mike
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