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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
That's 6 fanboys! 50% have less than 5 posts.
When the chips are down, the duvet is uncomfortable.
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
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On 2013-01-26 11:44, magicman_65 wrote: Putting out info on social media is one thing. Asking people to stuff the basket for you is kind of cheesey, to me. In the grand scheme of things, winning an award in a topic on The Magic Café is fairly insignificant. And so is getting people to vote in one. Of course, the other creators who are up for the award can do the same thing, if they wish. But then all the meat would be gone from the contest and we would only have cheese. Maybe Jaime could create a separate award for the winner among people who have 10 or less posts!
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
You're right Chessman, this competition is rapidly descending into farce.
The winner won't be the one with the best trick rather the most facebook followers. It wouldn't be fair then for the winner to put 'Voted MagicCafe trick of the year 2012' on the packaging of their product if the voting was rigged. I return to my suggestion to apply the same rules as the book of the year contest. That is 50 posts and over and your vote is counted. This would instantly eliminate 4 of the last run of C2W votes and make the competition a little bit fairer for everyone else.
When the chips are down, the duvet is uncomfortable.
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Waterloophai Inner circle Belgium 1368 Posts |
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On 2013-01-26 11:55, Jamie Ferguson wrote: Exactly the same as you! Otherwise it is not the best trick that wins but he who has the most "fans" on the social media. |
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Waterloophai Inner circle Belgium 1368 Posts |
I even have a suggestion for a supplemental rule in a next competition.
"He or she (the creator) who try to influence the outcome by any means is automaticaly excluded" |
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Bryn Williams New user 88 Posts |
I vote for Shawn Farquhar's C2W!!
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Shawn Farquhar V.I.P. Canada 760 Posts |
Hi Guys,
Jamie Ferguson did not completely quote my facebook post. He left out the final line of the post which in fact changes the entire message and although I would never think he did it on purpose, because he is an upstanding guy. I do however think for the sake of truthfulness the final line should be included in this thread: "This one is ok to not do, since it's kinda for my own gain, but if you love the C2W and have a minute... it would be cool. Thanks -shawn" Now to directly address my dear friend Jamie Ferguson. Jamie I found out about this contest by a bulk email from Luke Dancy asking me to vote for Sky Cap! "SkyCap is in the running for one of the 3 best tricks of 2012. It's currently number 4 on that list so I could use YOUR help if you think it should be higher on the list." Luke then was kind thoughtful to provide a direct link to this thread. I don't see you getting upset about this other form of advertising for votes. I'm not even sure how I got on Luke's email list. ( I do like being on the list though!) The people who purchase and perform my effect don't all frequent the Magic Café on a daily basis. Some have even just joined it appears, but you must admit that having new magicians join can only be good for everyone. Or maybe you think new members isn't a good thing? Waterloophai, you just don't like me so I disregard anything you have to say. If fact, I read your earlier post in this thread and it appears you're against this entire idea as you basically mocked everyone who buys a trick rather creating them on their own. Unlike you, not everyone is a brilliant and creative as you and some of us have to buy other peoples material to enhance our performances. This exact same scenario played out and it can been seen in the thread ( http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......tart=210 ), I was one of several creators who notified the magic world that there was a contest. For a short period of time I received a number of votes, but in the end "Get Sharkey" won. I was second with my Torn 2 Pieces. If you think it is a complete contest to allow only those to vote that stumble on this thread, well then that's your feeling. I visit the Café on a daily basis and would not have found this thread unless Luke Dancy was kind enough to direct me here with his email campaign. I did the same gesture with a post on facebook and did not 'call to duty" a legion of fans, but instead informed, asked and even said it it was fine if they didn't ... With respect, -shawn |
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Shawn Farquhar V.I.P. Canada 760 Posts |
Oh, I almost forgot to vote!
1) C2W 2) FOB 3) Mental Killer Love all three of these effects... -shawn |
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
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On 2013-01-26 14:42, Shawn Farquhar wrote: Hi Shawn I have the same view of Luke's effort to drum up votes. I think it allows the more popular magicians to win out over the less popular because the focus is on how well liked someone is rather than focusing on the product. If there was a poll for most popular magician you would come out near the top . However, this is about the product. My opinion is that only posters with 50 posts or more should be counted. I think JDG should step in and clarify rules around who is allowed to vote. I will shut up now. I'm sure I'm starting to become annoying. Wishing you luck in the competition. J
When the chips are down, the duvet is uncomfortable.
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mskowronski New user 64 Posts |
1. Evolution
2. Bag4life 3. The right choice by Michael Murray |
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mndude Special user 879 Posts |
"My opinion is that only posters with 50 posts or more should be counted. I think JDG should step in and clarify rules around who is allowed to vote. "
Agreed! Some of those votes that came in the end are fishy! Can you say sock puppets? |
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Jamie D. Grant V.I.P. as seen in Ripley's Believe It or Not! Twice! 2413 Posts |
Yikes,
Just checked in here. Well, I know one of the rules was to keep this thread positive and contain joy. (sigh) This kind of thing always drives me crazy- I have always made it a policy to never ever debate online. It's just a battle that can never ever be won. That's just a fact. I made that rule for myself in the very beginning. And I also try to be universally loved, so there' that, too, lol. That said, I guess I need to chime in here. So... I personally feel it is 100%, absolutely, without question, okay for people to ask their supporters to come out and vote. I mean, isn't that how elections work? I can't even fathom how you could have a contest without letting people know. That doesn't even make sense to me, lol. Wha? Now granted, I don't believe people should be asking others to lie. But I haven't seen that happening anywhere. As for a minimum of 50 posts, I went back and looked at the thread and counted a dozen of people who have (had) under 50 so it would be unfair to discount them. And there didn't seem to be any "fix" in place. I also think this is a great place for people to join the Café as this is fairly safe way to be introduced to it. Well, it should be. But, if I don't say anything, I'll be labeled as a ^%#&*@&n @%^7 son of a &^@&@(*_ who likes to *@&*@( with *@(**&^! and my ego just can't take that. So in order to try and appease everyone, I'll count every vote from someone who has under 50 Posts as a half-vote. So if you have under 50 posts, join into the conversations that abound on the Café. Learn, share, and enjoy- and get your posts up to 50 before the end of the month to have a full voice. Hopefully that's fair? If not, I'd like to say, for the record, that I never &@^*^@ that ((@&*&!! in the *&^@*&^@. Honest. Your pal, jamie
TRICK OF THE YEAR: Industrial Revelation, BOOK OF THE YEAR: The Approach, The AIP Bottle, and my new book Scenic 52, can all be found over here: SendWonder.com
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Mike Kirby New user 100 Posts |
Jamie,
You are such a great guy. I wish the world had more folks like you. Positive is the way to go. Why worry about silly stuff. Life is to short. Mike K |
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
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On 2013-01-27 13:39, Mike Kirby wrote: Aw shucks, thanks Mike . I couldn't agree more about worrying unnecessarily about the silly stuff. Jamie
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
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On 2013-01-27 14:13, Jamie Ferguson wrote: I laughed.
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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Gord New user 59 Posts |
Well, I am amazed, I guess The magic Café likes number of posts over content. I voted for C2W by Shawn Farquhar because I use it and I love it.I have bought many card to wallets and C2W is the first one I have bought that works well enough for me that I am happy to post about it.
I have been a member of the Café for years now and because I don't usually post I only get 1/2 a vote, I think this is some sneaky way of slanting the votes and I think this is a big ripoff. |
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Jamie D. Grant V.I.P. as seen in Ripley's Believe It or Not! Twice! 2413 Posts |
And point proven.
Gord- easy fix. As I mentioned, jump into any of the thousands of conversations here on the Café. Take part and learn, laugh, or in my case, cry, as you read, write, and respond. You've got four entire days to become a full fledged 50 post member which, aside from giving you a full vote, will also gain you access to "Secret Sessions." Back to Voting! What are your TOP 3? "The Houdin" is up for grabs!
TRICK OF THE YEAR: Industrial Revelation, BOOK OF THE YEAR: The Approach, The AIP Bottle, and my new book Scenic 52, can all be found over here: SendWonder.com
Kindness takes practice. My TEDx talk |
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wafflesthemagician New user Vancouver, Canada 73 Posts |
I'm actually most impressed by:
1) Christian Engblom's "The Cooler" I realize that this isn't a "trick" in itself, but I find that it opens up incredible possibilities. |
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magicbern Inner circle Hong Kong, China 1220 Posts |
[quote]On 2013-01-26 05:08, Jamie Ferguson wrote:
Magicbern You were obviously influenced by Shawn's attempt to drum up votes via his facebook page. He's after another trophy. Got to admire his competitive streak. For those that haven't seen it here's a copy of his request... Jamie, I don't know you but I used to respect some of the comments and reviews you have posted. However I think it's extremely presumptuous and obnoxious of you to put words in my mouth and make accusations. Whether or not Shawn wants another trophy is immaterial - I voted for his trick because it was a refreshing organic adaptation of the Card to Wallet premise. I've been experimenting with numerous wallets over the years and honestly think this version is perfect for everyday use. Thanks but no thanks for your unasked for comments and accusations as to my intent or motive for posting. My vote stands - whether or not Shawn wins and whether or not you like it! |
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Jamie D. Grant V.I.P. as seen in Ripley's Believe It or Not! Twice! 2413 Posts |
I think we need to make sure people realize there are 2 seperate "Jamie"s on this thread, lol.
TRICK OF THE YEAR: Industrial Revelation, BOOK OF THE YEAR: The Approach, The AIP Bottle, and my new book Scenic 52, can all be found over here: SendWonder.com
Kindness takes practice. My TEDx talk |
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