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Hiya Gang!

Before anything else, let me start by saying Peter is a friend of mine. Not only a friend, but a GREAT friend. Like a brother. Like a GREAT brother. A brother that you actually like. So, you've been warned. But wait, there's more warnings to follow...

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This effect is not for everyone! Actually, let me reword that.

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Not only is this effect not APPROPRIATE for everyone but some would argue, anyone.

Except, in my case, someone like Angry Bob (my nemesis co-worker who has a small working knowledge of magic -his uncle was a magician- and who loves nothing more than to bust me, if he can).

So, with those caveats out of the way, what is the BLACKPOOL PREDICTION?

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It's a "prediction" effect that uses a cardbox. That's it. All you need is a cardbox and a Sharpie. Heck, you don't even need cards, lol. I'm not kidding. Something else I'm not kidding about? I'm not kidding about this warning...

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Some of you will be offended, sickened, and downright angry.

But, and here's the twist, that doesn't mean it's not good. Or even great. For those rare moments, that one friend, that specific blip in time when being completely 100% inappropriate is actually the completely 100% appropriate thing to do.

Some of you, as soon as you buy it and read it for $10 (it's an e-book, by the way), will know exactly what I'm talking about. The rest of you will wonder how I can support this. And to you, I say, I don't! My quote for the book is:

"I can't support that...but it's really funny, lol." ~Jamie D. Grant

So do I support it? Absolutely not! That's just not who I am as a paid performer. Seriously. But did I buy a copy? Without question. Will I use it. Honestly? Yes, lol. Because there are times when I'm not a paid performer but just a regular guy with a powerful skillset. And this is where the Blackpool Prediction comes in...

Because there's always that time when I'm hanging at a bar in Mexico or Jamaica, or somewhere, and I've been doing some bar tricks and everyone I'm with is having a great time. But there's that one guy who's being an idiot. Everyone wants him to leave but, at he same time, we're glad he's there because it makes the story all that much better years down the road.

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And at that moment, this effect is priceless. You'll know it when you're there. You've probably been there already and would have killed for something so lethal. This is for that time.

So, you know what? I guess I do support this. Not for me. For him. For that guy. Because I know he'll get what's coming; but still be able to laugh about it. Because in that moment it'll be really funny. And being able to laugh about things is the best outcome for us all. I hope you can feel the same way.

There you go. No one can say I didn't warn you!

You can buy it here:

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~jamie
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Is it a prediction or not?
What can be predicted? -> Numbers? Words? Headlines? More?
Is it a magical effect or just a weapon against hecklers?
How far in advance does the "prediction" have to be prepared? Can it be done on-the-fly?
Does it require an assistant?
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These guys have FAR too much time on their hands!

As I live in Blackpool I had to buy this and to be honest it's exactly what I thought it would be...and so much more. Your $10 buys you an ebook of over 60 pages in length which takes a single gag, for that's what it is, and gives you pretty much every conceivable way of using it. When you're just a few pages in you'll either delete the book in disgust or start planning who to use this on...I did the latter.

Funny, well thought out and worth the cash.

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I remember being shown this at the bar in Blackpool. It was only disclosed to a select few pros.

It is VERY funny as long as you pick the right time to do it. If not you might literally find yourself 'in a flap'. Smile

Glad I had access to it before it was released to the masses.
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This sounds like one hell of a weapon. Especially if JD Grant set up this thread. It MUST be great.
I think I'll give this a go on mere principle, its a tool against the dreaded heckler.
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Go for it. You won't regret it.
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On 2012-11-26 15:27, Jamie Ferguson wrote:
Go for it. You won't regret it.



Yup. Ordering now. I enjoyed reading Mr. Grant's "Warning" post. Very entertaining, thank you.
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I'm picking mine up today. I'll let you guys know more about it soon!
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On 2012-11-26 15:39, Ben Train wrote:
I'm picking mine up today. I'll let you guys know more about it soon!

Don't say too much Ben. This one deserves to stay hidden! Smile
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I have it. My prediction, 90-95% of people will never use it and will likely feel they've just blown $10 (pdf). Or, if you buy the book at $25, you will be shouting a few expletives of your own. I have as open a mind as anyone and I'm sure everyone will jump on me for saying this, but this isn't worth $25 or $10 and should have been included, at most, in a set of lecture notes. It's main purpose is as a heckler buster. So if you get heckled a lot or have someone that tries to mess with you anytime you perform, that is when you would use this. For that specific situation, I'm sure it would serve its purpose. I suppose you could also use this if you perform for drunk people a lot...but that's also probably the environment you'd want to be careful so you don't get punched in the face.

It is a well done pdf and it is as thorough as you are likely going to get on an idea of this sort. That said, buyer beware if you are buying this expecting the next mind blower to add to your show.

Ok, I'm done. Now everyone can start to pile on and tell me how I'm an idiot because tons of big names supposedly like it.
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I don't think you're an idiot.

There will be people that don't like this and won't use it.

But, one day you may well find yourself in a situation where you begin to smile to yourself as you come across the ideal person to try this on.

I tried it on my mother and she freaked!
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Agreed! No name caling here, for sure. I respect everyone's opinion; especially yours, Eric!

This is just one of those things that is very particuliar to the purchaser. And it's an interesting dicussion, really. I mean, for myself, I would NEVER in a million years perform something like a sponge d**g d**g but can guarantee that I'll use The Blackpool Prediction. I wonder what makes these social dictinctions in myself? Interesting thoughts.

And for me, the price of a couple of coffees (I spend way too much on coffee, lol) is worth having this in my backpocket (or cardbox, in this case).

Looking forward to people's thoughts, opinions, concerns, and ideas.

Always your pal,

jamie
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I agree Jamie.

This is one of those things where only you will be able to decide if the time, place, audience and your own performing style are correct to unleash this effect. If they are, and you've judged correctly, then you'll get one hell of a laugh. If you're wrong you could end up in a spot of bother.
I've seen magicians use the sponge item you mention in all the wrong scenarios (is there ever a right scenario???) and then have to try and wriggle themselves out of the situation and win the audience back. God knows what would happen if those same performers used this! You really do have to be an experienced performer and a great judge of an audience to get away with this, but when you do...

It's like a grown up version of one of those 'I Know' badges that were around a while ago.

Personally I like the idea of just having this set up for the moment when a 'grabby' spectator decides to check your props. I'm smiling just thinking about it happening.

I bought the ebook version and I'm more than happy with e purchase but I might think a bit differently if I'd paid more for the print copy.

Just saying.

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On 2012-11-26 15:58, emyers99 wrote:
I have it. My prediction, 90-95% of people will never use it and will likely feel they've just blown $10 (pdf). Or, if you buy the book at $25, you will be shouting a few expletives of your own. I have as open a mind as anyone and I'm sure everyone will jump on me for saying this, but this isn't worth $25 or $10 and should have been included, at most, in a set of lecture notes. It's main purpose is as a heckler buster. So if you get heckled a lot or have someone that tries to mess with you anytime you perform, that is when you would use this. For that specific situation, I'm sure it would serve its purpose. I suppose you could also use this if you perform for drunk people a lot...but that's also probably the environment you'd want to be careful so you don't get punched in the face.

It is a well done pdf and it is as thorough as you are likely going to get on an idea of this sort. That said, buyer beware if you are buying this expecting the next mind blower to add to your show.

Ok, I'm done. Now everyone can start to pile on and tell me how I'm an idiot because tons of big names supposedly like it.


I for one agree with Jamie, no name calling. I respect you're opinion, as I am on the fence of purchasing this and a number of other effects. I don't really perform that much at all. I am more of a hobby magician. However I always feel nervous and shake like leaf wondering if my cover will be blow by an over curious spectator. But if there is something out there that is over the top, heckler targeted, works 100% of the time, and will keep me from shaking like a leaf...I'm in. Glad we live in a world where we have the right to share our opinions and thoughts.
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Keep in mind though this is not an effect. There is a way to make it into an effect and that variation is taught in the book, but that is not the main or intended purpose of this routine.
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Keep in mind though this is not an effect. There is a way to make it into an effect and that variation is taught in the book, but that is not the main or intended purpose of this routine.
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On 2012-11-26 23:15, emyers99 wrote:
Keep in mind though this is not an effect. There is a way to make it into an effect and that variation is taught in the book, but that is not the main or intended purpose of this routine.



Is there not a prediction effect using the card box as described above?
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Alright, got it. Here's my thoughts.

First, this is one of the stupidest things I've seen released in a long time. It also happens to be something I dig... and will use.

Second, I think this would make a TERRIBLE heckler stopper. What this is, to me, is a potentially very funny moment, the kind of thing I'd bust out late at night during a session. I'd do it if I was getting along with the company I was with.

What's interesting is that Pete has compiled a bunch of different ways to present this (methodologically), including contributions from a bunch of guys.

Is it worth the cash? That's up to you to decided. But it was for me.
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Thanks for the review Jamie! Appreciate it!
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Lol, I love that that is your first post! What took you so long?! And welcome to the Café! You're going to love it- everyone's great and you'll get some awesome opinions!

And Ben, I hope you've been well! As for a terrible heckler stopper, I think that all depends on who your heckler is. In my case, some of my best friends are my worst hecklers, lol! And this will do just nicely, lol.

I "lol" a lot,

jamie
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Thanks for the review Jamie! Appreciate it!



Woah--first post! AWESOME. Welcome to the Café Mr. McKinnon! Looking forward to checking out you're Blackpool Prediction in the near future.
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Jamie- I've been better, but I've also been worse. No complaints except the usual "school exams" one!

I don't consider my friends Hecklers. I consider a heckler someone MALICIOUS who wants to RUIN the show. A friend being goofy/stupid is just a spectator you can hit.

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Jamie- I've been better, but I've also been worse. No complaints except the usual "school exams" one!

I don't consider my friends Hecklers. I consider a heckler someone MALICIOUS who wants to RUIN the show. A friend being goofy/stupid is just a spectator you can hit.

Love,
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Ben, couldn't agree more. The malicious hecklers seem to always find me when I perform magic for folks, which is like once every other month. My friend hecklers are just goofy, and most of the time play a long with the effect. Even when I mess up the patter or handling, they say, "Is the part of the trick?"
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Thanks for the welcome,

I have found, in instances, that performing this for 'malicious' hecklers has actually turned them for the better. However, that's not always going to happen. Everyone is different.
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Just bought and read the book. I have to say it was much milder than you all had me expecting. After all the build-up, I was truly expecting the worst! As it is, this ebook is just right IMO. Smile Can't wait to try it out on my granddaughters!! Smile

Thanks Peter et al!

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Just bought and read the book. I have to say it was much milder than you all had me expecting.

You can always dial up the shock factor.

I'm Scottish so I found it completely inoffensive. Needed to tweak it a bit Smile
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J-Mac - Thanks for the love!

Jamie - haha, that's really funny! "The BPP - Scottish Edition" Smile

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I can hardly wait for Jamie to try this out on Angry Bob!! As an aside, I sometimes wonder if Angry Bob knows there are thousands of magicians around the world who check in periodically to see what he thinks? Lol.
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On 2012-11-30 00:08, J-Mac wrote:
Just bought and read the book. I have to say it was much milder than you all had me expecting. After all the build-up, I was truly expecting the worst! As it is, this ebook is just right IMO. Smile Can't wait to try it out on my granddaughters!!

Jim


Please, Jim- You are NOT going to do that, are you?
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