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Craig Ousterling Special user 585 Posts |
Anyone ever see a four sided rod? I remember about 15 years ago I saw one and could never find it for sale. I ended up having a machinist make me blanks out of black dull delron (delron? I think is what it is.) They turned out prtty nice once you put the color on them.
Anyway, if anyone has an idea of who the originator was I'm interested in knowing. ~Craig |
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Thank you for the great ideas and kind words! This thread's almost a year old, and since I started this topic, things (financially) have taken a turn for the worse, so getting out and "buying" things has to take a back seat for a while. The hurricanes took their toll.
With luck, I should be back to battery after the first of next year. Wish me luck! Doug |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Jumping Gems is still available. Stoner's Funstores carry it. The supplier is a mystery, though.
Original packaging and instructions. http://www.stoners.com |
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Thank you Bill! And thank you Curtis, for mentioning Ken Allen...he may be the originator. Until I learn otherwise, I guess that's what I'll go with.
I've decided not to "make" a set of my own, due to copyright. This was discussed privately, and I've come to the conclusion that it would be (morally) better to just buy the whole set from the link Bill gave. I mean $20, and you have the flash rod too! I'll have two sets, and can make modifications for my own use. That way, I've paid the originator (hopefully!), and can expand my ideas with a clear conscience. Thank you for your ideas, and replies! You guys are GREAT! This is why I LOVE this Café'! Doug |
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Dennis Regular user 124 Posts |
Doug,
I have a set of jumping gems and a flash rod that I purchased MANY years ago and the only name on the packaging and instructions is JACK MILLER. I thought he was the inventor (anyone know anything about him/this) Also, in Vol 1 of Ganson's THE ART OF CLOSE-UP MAGIC there's a routine that uses only ONE of the jumping gems rods - worth looking into... Dennis |
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mcmc Veteran user 310 Posts |
Paddle magic is great b/c the sleight is so simple...and it's pretty visual.
The only problem I have with it, is that the props are so completely random. Do you guys ever run into that, or feel that way? |
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Von New user 24 Posts |
Magic Central has a nice supply of wooden Hot Rods and another paddle trick that I produce called "Easy as 1,2,3". This last one has been real popular at the shop and at conventions we have attended. They have been carried by a lot of different shops. I have personly never seen the Jumping Gems performed but have saw a lot of other paddle move effects. "Easy as 1,2,3" sounds similar to Jumping Gems but only one stick is used.
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danielrhall Regular user NH, where some days I feel as dumb as 181 Posts |
Von:
I Googled "Magic Central" and "Easy as 1,2,3" and came up empty. Where can I find Magic Central or see the paddle tricks you have to offer? -Dan Hall |
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Von New user 24 Posts |
Dan,
I just looked at the website and theres not a very good description or picture on there so I will describe it briefly for you. You start with a blank stick on both sides, run the stick through your fist to reveal a diamond (or whatever color stone you recieve) has appeared on both sides of the stick. Then you wave your hand over the stick to reveal another stone has appeared on the other end of the stick on both sides. Finally you run the stick through your fist one more time to reveal a nother stone has appeared in the middle of the stick on both sides for a total of 6 stones. We have added a few little things to the end but this is the basic routine we give. Paddle move tricks are so versatile that the possibilities are endless. We have some that are made of exotic type woods with different colors and have Swarofski crystals for the stones. Very nice! You can email Ricky at Magic Central for a full line and description of the Easy as 1,2,3. amagiccentral.aol.com http://www.magicxtwo.com The exotic wood Easy as 1,2,3 are a bit more expensive but are a thing of beauty. We have a cheaper version that still looks awesome but it does not have the crystals for stones. I will try to post a pic here. |
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van Loyal user 276 Posts |
"Jamison's Spot Sticks" on Page 170 in J. G. Thompson, Jr.'s book "My Best" published by Charles H. Hopkins in 1945 outlines the standard "Jumping Gems" setup using painted spots instead of gems. I'm pretty sure that the plastic model with inset gems was first sold by Ken Allen.
Van
Later Ya'll
Van |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Ken Allen originally made the gems. Then Lee Noble took over. Now I believe a florida magician makes them. I cannot remember his name. He make other gem tricks and is famous for his dice stacking and coin box turning. He does not advertise anything himself. For some reason Jumping Gems has always been this way. I remember when I had a real time locating Lee Noble because I use to always buy from the manufacturer.
I do not know what glue if any they use for the gems. I had a gem fall out of my original Ken Allen 'Traffic Light' rod and it was messed up because I used airplane glue to repair. It removed the gold packing on the gem and turned the glue gold color. |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
That's probably Jim Zachary.
A friend of mine who passed away years ago, Wes Starbuck, used to make Hot Rods. He used contact cement to glue the rhinestones in. You can get replacement rhinestones from shops that sell high end fabrics for costumers. You will need to measure the gem diameter with a micrometer and order the rhinestone by metric diameter. It might be better to use a superglue gel, lightly applied, and make sure it goes around the edges of the hole in the stick. I would apply it with a straight pin. The problem with rhinestones is that the back surface is not really a gluing surface as Bill Hegbli has discovered.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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NMaggio New user Nick Maggio 100 Posts |
Gorilla glue, used very sparingly will hold solid. Gorilla Glue is a polyurethane adhesive. It will expand when drying; hence the delicate touch.
Goop is another readily available glue that will bond to virtually any surface. A small dab should hold the gems quite well. Nick Maggio |
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
I was never a big hot rod fan and liked the jumping gems much better because it was more of a routine than a trick. Also the gems glow in soft light and if the performer works in bars and night clubs that is an advantage over the color changing pocket knife...
Lighting is a problem with the knives - I have found... I stopped doing the jumping gems when I started doing my own routine the DieNamic diamonds... It is two sticks and a die with diamonds and it is one of my favoret walk around routines to do where there are no tables... Just working in the hands and out of the pockets...
Glenn Bishop Cardician
Producer of the DVD Punch Deal Pro Publisher of Glenn Bishop's Ace Cutting And Block Transfer Triumphs |
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Here's a tip I learned:
Countersink the gem 1/16th of an inch into the rod, and cover with clear, 5-minute epoxy. If I ever get to making a set, that's the technique that ensures permanance. Hope it helps a bit! Doug |
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Ed Hutchison Regular user Madison, MS (orig. CNY) 118 Posts |
Doug writes:
"I have a set of jumping gems and a flash rod that I purchased MANY years ago and the only name on the packaging and instructions is JACK MILLER. I thought he was the inventor (anyone know anything about him/this)" I'm pleased to relate what I can of my old friend, Jack Miller. Jack operated a shop from his home in Syracuse, NY, for many years. At the same time he did an act as "Mr. Twister." How Jack came to be the manufacturer of the famous Hot Rod effect is a long and involved tale, and the subject of no little controversy. Suffice it to say, though, that since some cave man probably invented the paddle move, any claim to having "invented" a Hot Rod is probably a bit of an over-statement. Ken Allen may have been the first to get the idea of a paddle move involving colored gems and a lucite paddle. Or he may not have been the first, I really do not know. But, it is true that Jack Miller became the manufacturer and wholesaler of many thousands of Hot Rods, Gem Busters, Jumping Gems, and other gem products. Jack turned these out by the gross in his basement workshop, for more than 25 years. At about the same time that Jack started, Jim Zachary (Jim Zee) was manufacturing Hot Rods at his shop in Connecticut. I'm sure that between them they must have manufactured enough rods to supply every magician in the world with a dozen or more. Jack passed away several years ago in upstate NY. I understand that his equipment was sold to another person who is still making the mouth coils, Top Hat Surprises, Hot Rods, etc., that Jack was noted for. Ed Hutchison |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
So the mystery of the Jumping Gems continues. Who is manufacturing them? I see at the local magic shop, Stoner's Magic they have the trick and flash rod. I recently looked at them and they are not the good quality previously produced. They have rounded edges on the four sides and are available in regular size. To my knowledge the JUMBO size is not available.
Jim Zachary is has passed, I did not know that. He also did beautiful coin boxes in brass dollar size. Is anyone carring on his line of boxes? |
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JR Russell New user 69 Posts |
When I went to Japan, I went to Ton Onasaka's shop and he had a jumping gem set that was black metal and had a nice little leather pouch that allow both ends to protrude and slide out from either end. I bought the set on the spot, fits in my pocket and I use the Mike Skinner routine.
"JR" Fly Navy |
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
I bought a set of Jumping Gems about 10 years ago, but never had the bag/box or instructions.
It came with 3 bars. 2 are the standard bars, but one has 6 rubies on one side and one diamond on the other. Is this bar (with the 6 rubies) what is called a flash rod? Mark
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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Nick-V. Special user Create and Devastate 817 Posts |
It's a great spectacle.
Not difficult at all to execute either. An effect that is lots of fun and always gets great reactions I even saw a very young kid at a street fair doing it. He nailed it! It was GREAT! Simply Wonderful.
Peace on the Magical Streets
~Nick V.~ |
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