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Lukasz P Loyal user 230 Posts |
Thanks Ollie . I watched this . Great but I am looking for something diferent
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
Craigboldy:
I see that this is your first post, so welcome to the Magic Café! You are starting the right way by asking a GREAT question! Let me assure you that you CAN plant the thought of a card in someone's mind, and it is ONE OF THE STRONGEST TRICKS YOU CAN DO IN MAGIC, IN MY EXPERIENCE. This takes skill, experience, guts and psychology but when done RIGHT......it will literally drive your audience crazy! This trick is best performed for a very small (1 to 4 people) audience under intimate conditions, and this is more of a "mentalism" type of effect, but often mentalism effects are MUCH STRONGER than magic effects in the eye and in the mind of the spectator, especially when you, the performer, NEVER TOUCHES THE PROPS (Cards, in this Case). I performed this for Rush Limbaugh's brother, "Doc" Limbaugh while in College in Cape Girardeau Missouri, and when HE turned over the top card of the deck (which I never touched and reminded him of that fact) and it was the card he THOUGHT of.....he literally ran screaming "Oh My God!" through the front door! THAT is the reaction you want when you do this trick the right way. If I may offer a suggestion: As others have stated in this thread, once you have a certain number of posts, (I think it's 100, but I could be wrong) you are allowed access to an area of The Magic Café which is called Secret Sessions. In my opinion, THAT is where you want to post this question. I won't tip methods here because I don't want to expose them. I will say this, however, others have mentioned "The Invisible Deck" and "The Brainwave Deck" which I consider "Outs" for this trick. Having said that, there is a stronger "Out" for this which is ideal IF you need it. The goal would be to NOT need "Outs" performing this. so, craigboldy, keep digging.......and you will hit GOLD! |
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Kabbalah Inner circle 1621 Posts |
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On Feb 26, 2015, Rainboguy wrote: It was his first and ONLY post, over two years ago!
"Long may magicians fascinate and continue to be fascinated by the mystery potential in a pack of cards."
~Cliff Green "The greatest tricks ever performed are not done at all. The audience simply think they see them." ~ John Northern Hilliard |
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TomasKancyper New user 78 Posts |
Well, in Daniel Madison´s anthology there´s a trick that involves the unconscius thinkingof the queen of hearts. In derren brown's Pure Effect, he teaches how to unconsciusly suggest 2 or 3 cards I think
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Ricardo Delgado Loyal user 230 Posts |
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On Feb 27, 2015, Kabbalah wrote: I think the OP was never profoundly interested in magic. So I'm posting to keep this interesting topic alive. Dani Daortiz can achieve just that, he can implant a card in a spectator's mind. I've seen him doing it, and I've done it myself. It's totally possible under the right conditions. And you do literally that: you implant a card in someone's mind and nobody notices it. Dani uses this technique to do a very impressive think of a card routine, but you should be able to use it as a "force of a thought card". |
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TomasKancyper New user 78 Posts |
Ricardo Delgado are you talking about the trick he teaches in his utopia?
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Zlwin Chew Elite user Malaysian Magician with 437 Posts |
Did someone thought of the Jack of Spades?
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TomasKancyper New user 78 Posts |
Derren Brown "explains" how to plant the thought of the 3 of diamonds on his 1999 lecture by International Magic
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lynnef Inner circle 1407 Posts |
Even though the OP has 'disappeared', the topic is worthwhile. As mentioned before, we're not talking supernatural... but trying to make the spectator think that they have actually thought of the card freely. The Invisible and Brainwave Deck were mentioned; but I sometimes mess with a little quick trick (don't know the name) using a very short card where you fan a display in front of them... and the short allows more of a glimpse to the spec than other cards. It's not perfect, but with practice its pretty good. Only problem is that its kind of a one-trick pony. btw thanx to Café folks for the references to Dani DaOrtiz and Derren Brown! Lynn
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Crushroom New user 6 Posts |
I have seen a Belgian magician, such as myself, perform an amazing routine where he had a card in his mouth the whole time and asked the spectator (written on papers) to name a card/any card. She first said Visa, but that was clearly a joke. When she said her card, he just took the card out of his mouth and it was the named card. Now I've guessed most of his performance and had a 2- hour conversation with him after it. Where we exchanged hints and tips to eachother. Only his secret to this one is one that had me going for months now, so finally I decided to ask for help from you guys about how he could've done it and also how I can learn it. By the way, for the ones who wonder, it was no assistant. It was someone who works at the bank where I've seen him perform it (the same where I work in).
We perform magic, not to convince people that magic exists, but to outsmart them... and they like it.
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FelixKraus New user 93 Posts |
Peter Turner has a Psychological PDF full of useful tips!
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tomd Special user 747 Posts |
Bryan Reynolds psy force for a playing card is awesome, I use it all the time. It can be found in the swafwan papers. Although I have a version in the pipe line which is 100% sure fire, and the spectator will feel genuinely that he had a completely free choice. It's based off Bryan's, but I've combined 3 other effects so that I can get it right every time.
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plmqaz1243 Regular user Only has 141 Posts |
Commenting o an old post, but I haven't seen any mention of "look at a card" effects which are just as good. There are lots of "look at a card" methods available where a card is mentally selected from a fan or spread without physically touching it. Look into Dani daOrtiz and David Berglas. It is my opinion that certain 'peek a card' forces/peeks like the Peek control from Card College vol.1, or even a dribble/riffle force are also almost as effective as thinking of a card. I have my own handling of the peek control and a variation where the spectator can cut off a portion of the deck, look at the bottom card, and replace it. Feel free to PM me if you'd like me to explain it. I made these variations because I'm left handed, and the peek control doesn't work for a reversed grip!
In close up situations, if you are experienced enough with your spectators, it's easy enough to equivoque a suit and psychologically force the number if you are familiar with Banachek's Psychological Subtleties. I've gotten excellent reactions asking someone to name a number and someone else to pick a suit, and revealing that exact card in a certain location. Of course, multiple outs can help with this and eliminate some of the equivoque. I also suggest maybe looking into pocket indexes, like Daniel Madison's The Advocate. Finally, I'd suggest looking into JC Wagner's work with named cards. I have an effect which uses a clever spelling principle which allows me to reveal the Joker by counting down the spelling of any thought of card. Of course, Jokers are wild, so the joker changes into the named card to finish the effect. Memorized decks and stacks like Si-Stebbins may also be of interest to you. Finally, there's always preshow work if that's an option. |
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supertoad12 New user Choose a number between 1 and 88 Posts |
Dani daOrtiz got great stuff on this on his live lectures.
Steph
"The moment you doubt whether you can fly, you cease for ever to be able to do it"...J.M. Barrie |
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FelixKraus New user 93 Posts |
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On Nov 17, 2016, supertoad12 wrote: I believe he also talk about it in his penguin live lecture, very useful advice. |
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LeafyMagic New user 34 Posts |
I highly recommend Peter turners psychological forces playing cards pdf. In it he teaches you how to psy force any playing card.
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AndreOng1 Regular user SIngapore 110 Posts |
Psychological forces is incredible, I incorporate his techniques in my routine all the time
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