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Sam Sandler Inner circle 2487 Posts |
Hi there
many of us were talking about the differences in back drops on the thread "my new backdrop" I felt that we had gotten away from Larrys original post and did not want to steal any more of his thread. we can continue here and talk all we want. as I mentioned I will by end of this weekend post pictures of my set up start to finish and in all stages. Michael Messing will be posting some of my other pictures from other shows here shortly. I don't have a ton with the full back drop in the picture as most are of me and the kids and the action going on not of the backdrop itself. I do have tons with the full backdrop but from a bit of a distance. if you want to see some of those too just let me know. thanks sam let the backdrop talk begin
sam sandler- America's only full-time DEAF Illusionist
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
I'll bet your daughter can teach you how to use photobucket.
- Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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Michael Messing Inner circle Knoxville, TN 1817 Posts |
Here are Sam's photos of his backdrop:
Please note that Sam moved the curtain over in this next shot. He had gone behind the backdrop to get something so that's why it doesn't go to the end of the crossbar. |
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Paul Rathbun Inner circle Michigan 2543 Posts |
Sam,
What is the price on your backdrop?
https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/9160
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
Mine is also with two tripods and a crossbar. I like how it adjust to any height. I have a few backdrops. Each of mine are airbrushed.
Can JJ Backdrops be adjusted by inches? |
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Rodney Palmer Inner circle 1317 Posts |
What I personally do not like about Sam's Backdrop is that it Sags in the Middle and looks very Un-Professional.
Rodney P.S. J.J Backdrops can be adjusted in inches.
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
When it comes to magicians choosing different backdrops, look at the good part, everyone is not using the same one. It helps eliminates the "same ole, same ole" when our audience watches us.
Everyone's backdrop I noticed has an advantage to the individual. Even though I never seen anyone using an airbrushed one like mine, I will never criticize someone's else's (unless it has holes in it, or was fifthly with soil and dirt). Posted: Feb 28, 2013 12:29am To those who never seen photos of JJ Backdrops before: http://magicbackdrops.com/MagicBackdrops/Now_Available.html To those who never seen photos of the Spider Backdrop before: http://www.spider-evoflex.com/store-prod......oyalblau |
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Mary Mowder Inner circle Sacramento / Elk Grove, CA 3659 Posts |
It sags a little in the middle and it still looks fine. I'd hardly call it unprofessional.
Does Sam wish it didn't sag, probably. I don't think the JJ Backdrop looks perfect either. http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......um=17&47 It could use a little fixing up but it's fine too. My curtain could be larger but it works just fine. There is no reason to say there is only one professional way to do it or call all other set-ups a joke. If we want to put all shows to the Disney Standard of production we'll have to change more than our Back Drops including our prices. I'd hate to price most of the market out of being able to have some entertainment at their child's Birthday Party. I'm with you Dynamike. -Mary Mowder |
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
Our clients really judge us by our performances, not the backdrop. A terrible magician can have the best backdrop in the world. A great magician can have no backdrop. Who do you guys think will get most bookings?
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
Sam -
You said in another post that your curtains themselves can adjust for height (I'm not referring to the stands). How are you adjusting your curtains for different heights, other than folding (or rolling) the bottoms? Are you simply wraping / rolling them around the crossbar extra times? - Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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Paul Rathbun Inner circle Michigan 2543 Posts |
I am not convinced that the Sam's backdrop is sagging. I am thinking it may be an optical illusion. What I think is actually going on is that it is hinged back slightly in the middle, causing it to look like it is sagging. I could be wrong though.
https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/9160
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themagiciansapprentice Inner circle Essex, UK 1381 Posts |
I've seen Sam perform and at lectures. His back-drop does the job and looks professional. And like Donald I'm intrigued about the curtains, as mine don't adjust.
And look at the posters on the magic tables and the backdrop. Greatly add to the effect of the stage, whilst giving necessary details.
Have wand will travel! Performing children's magic in the UK for Winter 2014 and Spring 2015.
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Potty the Pirate Inner circle 4632 Posts |
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Ken Northridge Inner circle Atlantic City, NJ 2392 Posts |
I can't imagine a better, more portable, backdrop than a Jeff Jones backdrop.
"Love is the real magic." -Doug Henning
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charliecheckers Inner circle 1969 Posts |
Awesome backdrops shared here! Now I know what my next project is.
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Sam Sandler Inner circle 2487 Posts |
Ok yes in 3 of the pictures it appears to have a sag. but note that the curtains are not fully extended. when set up fully there might be a slight sag but not noticeable. as I mentioned I don't have any close up shots of the curtains. I can post a ton of shots from a distance and you wont see any sagging.
please also note in the first picture that it was fully set and the picture was taken during my show at dickens magic parlour. note there is no sag! I will also say again the JJ is great but would not meet my needs that is why I invented my set up. with custom cross bar and custom curtains. while the backdrop stands are some what common place that is where it ends. let me get you better pictures over the weekend and you will see what I am talking about. I have also used many different color backdrops over the years from mylar to, black to marble. and now using this blue marble shinny one. so check back I promise to have better pictures for you sam
sam sandler- America's only full-time DEAF Illusionist
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Michael Messing Inner circle Knoxville, TN 1817 Posts |
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On 2013-02-28 03:51, Paul Rathbun wrote: It is sagging. The type of crossbar used with this set will sag when extended fully. I have a lot of experience with this kind of backdrop stand. It does not have a hinge in the middle, although the crossbar does connect in the middle. It's two pieces. |
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
My three airbrushed backdrops:
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Skip Way Inner circle 3771 Posts |
I am very honored to be one of Jeff Jones' best friends and neighbor. He would be the first to compliment Sam and Mike on their backdrop designs and agree that different performers have different tastes. Sam's backdrop is everything he says it is - portable, adjustable, lightweight and professional. Mike's backdrop is simply beautiful and eye catching - I love it. I also agree with Mike that it's the magician's talent that counts most, but would add that creating a beatiful stage set that catches the eye, sparks the imagination, and promises something great is equally important. A magic table and a magician alone may promise magic, while a beautiful backdrop, banners, preshow music, and colorful stage decor - even for an in-home birthday - promises A SHOW! That's added value that draws referrals and higher fees. Great look, Sam!
How you leave others feeling after an Experience with you becomes your Trademark.
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
More backdrops:
http://www.showbackdrops.com/ Pictures of Kyle using the Jet Set: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......&start=0 http://www.timsonefelt.com/store_product......ackdrops |
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