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stephane_arnow
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Best photo I have : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=......&theater
Done with help of Vostinic, idea together.
it is not audiance dismember. I had the one from Bill smith last year. Not bad at all, but not as deceptive and practical that this one.
That s my opinion, I use it on stage very often since 4 months now. cheers
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You seem to have an excuse for using knock off illusions, so what is your excuse for using a copy of John Taylor Suspended animation?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=......rmPage=1

Or for using a rip-off of Steinmeyers pole levitation or copy of Losander table or any of the other copies that you use or used?

I am very interest why you think you can rip off creators like this?
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John Taylor suspended is not used anymore (already spoke in another tread)
For Losanter table , you are not well informed ! I have 3 floating table : 1 losander Deluxe original from Losander , that I use on Stage only. + 2 versions not original , identical from Makmagic but correct build (not as welll assembled) that I use with a little magnet security front of the audiance in Theme park (VULCANIA) , in Parade and movement. Because of the risk of break, I have 2 identical (one for Spear). And If I use it in the same park, with the total routine on Stage (for special event , some days), I use my original Losander.

For Pole levitation, which is sold yet, Yes I used it often. This is not the original, but works in HF by remote control, without wire on battery, compact and very reliable. So you can attack near of 80 % of magicians in europe that use Pole levitation, because lots a re build in Italy, or special build, even the one in Park Asterix sold to a famous magician in France, or in germany etc... I assume, but I have sold the illsion in end of 2012.

So, if you have something to say about the building , ask Vostinic, which is a man who build very well. And ok to discuss without problem.
Ok to discuss, but still want to see the photos of show, or video from Tristanmagic, to see his work. Maye my version of Woman cutting is inspired by Steinmeyer by different on lots of point and definitivly not a copy. We can speak about that, in the respect.
And yes, still interestedf to see your work on stage Tristanmagic. I have nothing against you . I do my best to live of my artist job, and make live different personn in my troup. You can bash, Bertran Loth , Dany lary or even Kamyleon, or US magic if you want in my country; if we search a lot, all their props are not ''legitimate at 100 %, which don't remove the fact they are great professionnals.

And to finish, my Cutting edge is a Bill Smith , my Stretcher is an Owen, my stage floating table is a losander but my parade/street version is a Makmagic, my woman sawing in Half is a VOSTINIC etc.. and do you want my size of slip ? LOL
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Last thing, if the Audiance dismember was so good, I think I would have keep it more than 1 year. It was good, but definitively my new version is better. I see it with the reaction of the audiance, and it is more clean. I use it , so I can speak about.I can show you , if I find it , the "old photo'' with my sold Audiance dismember.
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You see... my assumption is correct, you do have an excuse for everything ;-)

Next time that you use a rip-off in your show please do us all a favor and don't sell it but destroy it as otherwise you are just passing the problem to someone else!

I know several people in France who do the right thing like Kamyléon who buy his ilusions from the authorised builders.
And in the last few years Betran Loth is buying from the top builders.

Of course there are others like yourself or like US Magic but one day you will find out that you can't be a great performer if you steal or copy from others.
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Hi Tristan , if I have time I will destroy the suspended, but I prefer take the plexi to have spear/replacement for my crystal box, or keep the jarret piedestal to make build another thing.
For the table floating, I m not so mad to use my 1800 euros table in parade. But I m really happy to present it on stage, because 1) it is the real one 2) Perfect stability and strong.and so nice. The mak is different, same effect but not so weell adjusted (but system to assemble very different) . but looks real and cheap to break and RE-glue it in case I have to much wind or problem in center of audiance.and this model have a system to prevent the gimmick to go out...

And , yes, if you search you will see illusions not all legimite, EVEN in the shows of the very respectable magiciens that I have given. Some Squeeze box , some SLICER, some Origami etc...with good design also.
I understand your fight. For the pole levit, even If I don't have it anymore, I m still very happy of the model that I had, and in the past, I had no idea where a legitimate pole levit was available; hf and no wire system... with remote control...
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Perhaps I am wrong, but from what I can tell from your audience cutting in half, I wouldn't use it because the "victim" will leave the stage knowing how it was done. Unless I'm wrong about what seems to be the method. That's what I liked about the Steinmeyer and Taylor version: the helper doesn't know how it was done.

Jim
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If I am right about the method, Osborn has a cutting into thirds illusion plans that uses the same method and the same type of base I saw in your latest version.

Jim
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Quote:
On Mar 8, 2013, makeupguy wrote:
But I don't think it can be done with an audience member as cleanly.

However.. it's a good design for what it is...


Yes it can performe with a spectator from the audiance!
see u
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