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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
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On 2013-06-07 12:29, Zombie Magic wrote: Zombie Magic--thanks for the request. First, I don't ever think I have used the word "complicated" to describe the effect. It isn't complicated. Some may find it difficult but not necessarily for the reasons one may think. I continue to believe few will perform it just like few will perform the Berglas Effect set out by the master himself in his book. I do think the effect has value to those who do not perform it because it should promote creative thinking. However, for those who put the effort in and perform it---they will perform a truely stunning ACAAN. With regard to a demo, I will not be posting one. I have seen so many people get chopped up on this site by posting a demo. Usually it begins endless public posts on speculation of the method and if a method can't be determined than they allege some fraud or editing. On the other hand, if you don't post a demo than people are upset. In my mind, you can't win. I do think there are enough posts on this thread that someone can make an educated decision about Devil's ACAAN. But if a demo is important to you, I certainly understand not purchasing it for that reason. Thanks again Greg |
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
Nice cop out Greg. Demo's on a good solid effect do not get ripped apart. It is appreciated and further cements that the effect is solid and workable. It shows that what you are trying to advertise is in fact the true scenario that happens.
RNK
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
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On 2013-06-07 13:06, RNK wrote: Appreciate your thoughts RNK |
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Nicolino Inner circle 2893 Posts |
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
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On 2013-06-07 14:12, Nicolino wrote: lol, I doubt it. But thought since his current description of the Devil's ACAAN was not totally accurate, it is only fair to keep things real.
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
Brehaut, thanks for addressing my post.
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
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On 2013-06-07 14:12, Nicolino wrote: I do. As I said you can't please everyone. So when I have a long list of great reviews with one or two that are negative, it keeps me grounded. |
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
I enter again on this thread... first I want to say I can make this effect even better than Gregg ..here goes...
The deck can and should be shuffled by the spectator, then the deck placed into the box and put awayby the spectator, then have a card and no seclected and the spectator remove the pack and deal as discribed... bravo it will work every time..you have amiricle ....EVEN BETTEER THAN THE HOLY GRAIL. however this effect is not practical and this is why you will never see a demo.....not because you will be able to re engineer it because it is under almost impossible situations..... I my self like to see a demo before purchasing but, in this case I purchaed without a demo. I WANTED TO BE HONEST AND GAVE A REVIEW THIS COMES FROM OVER 55 YEARS IN MAGIC... again please buy Greggs effect, and see for your self it is great on paper, but you will never use it.,.... vinny ps entermagic magic knows more about acaan than anyone in the world.... |
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
Vin,
I don't really understand your comment but everything in it you have said before. I understand this effect is not for you. You are a magician, not a mentalist. I have seen your videos---you like the slick card moves, etc. My effect is very different. No pass, no double lifts, etc. It is fine that it is not for you. Others like it, you don't. Not a problem. This effect really will be appreciated more by mentalists. Again, I have read your comments several times. Thanks Greg |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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On 2013-06-07 13:06, RNK wrote: Hi RNK, I'm not sure about this video demo argument. Those of us born before 1980 (okay, I'll admit it, before 1970!)spent our entire period of magical education without the benefit of video demos. Sure, it left us prey to the less than accurate ad-copy, but on the plus side we didn't have to worry about the effect we'd just paid 15 quid for being exposed on youtube the next day by a ten year old. Nor did we have to cope with the modern curse of the pre-release friends and aquaintances hype monster that is the Latest and Greatest thread! But take, for example, Barrie Richardson's Any Card At Any Number from his majestic Theatre of the Mind (pg 257). If a full, unedited demo video was released of this effect, every magician watching would know how it was done immediately. And its chances of being exposed online would have multiplied greatly. Indeed the demo of Impromptu Card at Any Number DOES expose the method to anyone with eyes. Does this make Mr Richardson's creation a weak effect or not worth the paper it's written on? Far from it. It was brilliantly original thinking at the time, still is over a decade later, and plays very strongly. I personally have a headline prediction type effect that I use one on one which is one of the strongest effects I know. It absolutely astonishes people I do it for. But the nature of the compromises are well-known to magicians. If I posted a video of it you would see what I was doing straight away,yet NO-ONE witnessing it live could possibly catch it. Does the inability to have it watched repeatedly on video without tipping the method render it useless? I for one don't think so. I think it is stronger than practically everything else I do one-on-one without electronics. I think brehaut's effect falls into this category. He was very honest about the limitations of its uses. He slipped up only once by posting something that is factually incorrect but you can see he did so in an excited haste. If I paid $50 for this I probably wouldn't be very happy, but I didn't, I paid $12. I understamd completely though why others feel differently. It is that kind of method. |
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
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On 2013-06-07 15:08, Martin Pulman wrote: So he's not posting a demo because magicians would easily pick up on the method, correct? If so, that's interesting since he originally stated that this was difficult to do which would scare some away from ever using it.
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
Greg I never ever said I did not like the effect the effect is great.... I said it was in practical . I gave a honest review...can this be done in a normal veniew ,,,the anwser is no....
again when done if ever it is a miricale....\ vinny . hello Martin I nnever said this was a week effect, however please inform the c community when or if ever youdo this effect. |
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Incognito Regular user 109 Posts |
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On 2013-06-07 03:42, entermagic wrote: MP, This is a great solution for a stage performer, which I'm not. I'm mostly hired to work in cocktail party environments. Greg, would your Devil's ACAAN be workable in a cocktail party environment? Thanks. |
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
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On 2013-06-07 15:08, Martin Pulman wrote: Also Martin- as Jon Allen stated before- he posted a demo of his Rule of 3 knowing that magicians would recognize workings but the main reason was to show how the effect gets great audience reactions. I believe that is one of the main points for demo's- to see real world reactions. After all, you buy magic to perform for people- so it is nice to see what kind of reactions the effect gets. Now granted, I understand that audience reactions are a direct result of the performers presentation skills. Though, I believe most magicians/mentalists know their style and limitations. RNK
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
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On 2013-06-07 15:36, Incognito wrote: Incognito---sent you a PM to answer your question. Thanks Greg |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
It would easily be possible to film a video of brehaut's method that would not tip the method. In that respect my post above may have been misleading. Some may however question certain elements of such a video demo. I also think that a demo wouldn't capture the sheer astonishment the spectator would feel. Their reaction on such a video, however, would easily be captured, and it would be massive.
But! I can also see Vinny's point of view. It is simply that kind of effect. |
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
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On 2013-06-07 15:23, vinsmagic wrote: Thank you Vin. Yes, I have never been shy to say that few will do it because for some it may be impractical. I am glad that you think the effect is "great" and that when it is performed it allows you to perform a miracle. |
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Incognito Regular user 109 Posts |
Incognito---sent you a PM to answer your question. Thanks
Greg Thanks for the PM Greg. |
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mtpascoe Inner circle 1932 Posts |
I don't need a demo as most of them leave things out any way. And I don't mind if it is difficult. The only thing that I find difficult is memorizing a stack. If you feel that it might expose the secret, then you don’t have to answer my question, but does it take memorizing a stack?
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writeall Special user Midland, Michigan 930 Posts |
This is getting very interesting. We have a trick that meets all the usual conditions, is "great," and "a new concept." But it's also impractical and most who buy it won't perform it. Fascinating.
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