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Just a light-hearted Friday posting, but there are some phrases that I hear being used in performances that are akin to fingernails on a chalk-board to me.

Here are my top 2

Would you be amazed if........
(this one is also used a lot by magicians)


Now there's no way I could know......
(to me this is the mentalism equivalent of saying "I have an ordinary deck of cards")
(or a boxer telegraphing a punch)

Feel free to add your own or ignore, as you see fit.

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Tacking on "...for me" at the end of nearly every sentence...

Stand there for me
Pick any book for me
Hold you hand out for me

And

"This is fair, right?" and "no way I could know..."
especially if you then prove that you did...
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I agree with both of you Smile

But I think context is also important for the "Now there is no way I could know what you are thinking" line.

It is frequently used in television mentalism to help paint a fair picture for the viewer at home. Often the reaction of the person when they say "no" is enough to convey fair play to the audience at home and help imply that this is someone who was randomly selected instead of someone who could have been researched OR someone the performer knows pieces of information about (I.E Knows them).

I use the word Pow to reveal things now, I hate that but cannot help it Smile

Pete x
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In a similar fashion...

I constantly read that one should never say the phrase "Please choose X for me..." when using equivoque. I disagree, I use it all the time, the reply you give to their decision is what means the most.

I use it all the time and it has flown by magicians & mentalists due to the boldness and directness of it.

BUT!

One thing I cannot stand to hear is:

"Lets take this one step further!"

and

"That was fair right?"

I cringe when I hear these, but two BIG names use them with great success so I guess its all about HOW you say it to your audience.

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I use them lines all the time Art Smile just the way I'm programmed

I use the others from time to time too. What can you do?

When I sold my soul I never asked for a nice accent or good vocabulary ;-)

Praising someone for nothing in a patronising sense is something I hate.

Lift your finger... you're doing amazingly

Pete x

What's your favourite colour. . Amazing fantastic
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Didn't know you used the "that's fair right?" line but I know you use the "Lets take this one step further" one.

Looks like I got the nice accent and you got the talent! hahahaha

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I have a stupid hair cut now too!

I went to an afro Barber in holland he cut a bald line in my head! !

Pete Smile
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Well you're from Bradford so at least you fit in now!

;)

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On 2013-08-30 06:27, Peter_turner wrote:
Praising someone for nothing in a patronising sense is something I hate.

Lift your finger... you're doing amazingly

Pete x

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I didn't think I had any pet hates until I read that, but that's one of mine. Another is using words that only mean something to mentalists like "write the name on this billet".

Oh and another, "let's put it in my wallet to isolate it".

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I hate the magicians guilt when handing out items. "Go ahead and make sure that's a regular notepad" Why the hell wouldn't it be?
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I'm learning some great lines here...this is a solid gold thread, that one line is worth the price alone......
I love post its Smile
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When picking an envelope "amazing" or "fantastic"

Really patronising! Aren't you clever picking up an envelope! Well done YOU!
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In all seriousness I quite like the one step further line
I love post its Smile
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Yes that's another one of my pet hates over justifying "regular items" like over explaining where a magazine or book for a magazine or book test comes from.

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I love the line, "The walls, they're closing in! Quick, help me prop up Vegetable Man or we'll be done for!"

But that's from Toy Story 2......

Regarding mentalism, a lot of people hate "And you had a completely free choice correct?" Yet I find myself using it all the time

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On 2013-08-30 06:31, Peter_turner wrote:
I have a stupid hair cut now too!

I went to an afro Barber in holland he cut a bald line in my head! !

Pete Smile


:lol: Gutted.
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On 2013-08-30 06:42, seamagu wrote:
In all seriousness I quite like the one step further line

So do I to be honest, if used well it can give the appearance of spontenaity (haha the iPad auto corrected that to the appearence of spoon tenacity which might be true in a metal bending routine).

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I hate that "Let's take this one step further", it reminds me of that nob rich ferguson from the 'this is mentalism'dvd!

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Nothing wrong with Pete's accent- in fact I think it makes him stand out from the crowd and adds a further layer of authenticity.

As Edith Piaf said: Use your faults, use your defects, then you're going to be a star!

Not sure about using "Pow!" on a reveal, mind you. Those of us of a certain vintage may immediately think of Adam West's Batman. Not necessarily conducive to a serious tone. Smile
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I agree Martin, somehow "Kablammo!!!!" wouldnt work to well for me onstage either!

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