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I personally think green bicycles are the best, cause they're not the normal blue or red, but with the same quality. The problem is that people may think that the deck is marked or it is a trick deck. Well, in the places where I've been, people aren't so much into bicycles, like in th US, so that's not a problem, and I always let someone check the deck before, to lower suspicion. One thing I have to say is: DO NOT use cheap paper cards, just to make it everyday, because they tear and bend in every possible way.
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I've always liked Aviators. though I am aware that I'm in the minority here. I tend to like plastic coated cards as they don't seem to get quite as sticky as Rider Backs, which have the rough Air Cushion finish. While I know that thousands swear by Tally Ho Circles and I love the design, every pack of these I've ever bought turned to $h1t in a week of normal use.

I've tried the Mandolins, and they've convinced me that "traditional cut" is not for me. I faro from the top down and Mandolins do poorly for that. I don't do tabled faros, so "traditional cut" is of no advantage. Moreover, the first pack of these I ever bought was crimped so badly I could never get it out. Not to mention that hideous paramecium/feather/whatever-the-h311-it-is at the corners of the back design...nosir, didn't like 'em. And that's I all got to say 'bout that.

Some of the best-handling and -lasting cards I've come across are the Masters Editions. While the Ace of Spades design is not at all to my taste, everything else is very good. I've packs of these that, by now, have got to be at least a couple of YEARS old that handle better than week-old Tallies.

My aesthetic quibble with so many of these cards is that they seem to want be poster art rather than a humble playing card back. But maybe some people dig that.

Like the man said: use what you like.
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Even though I am an avid collector of decks, it's just for their looks.

As far as actual usefulness, I personally practice with Bicycle 808 Rider Backs, but perform with Bicycle 809 Mandolins as the quality is by far the best.

(However, in rare instances, I use the Phoenix Parlour Size deck for Tiny Plunger! I just love the small vs big juxtaposition!)
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As they say, personal preference and context. I generally prefer Bee when I want no border and Tally-Ho when I want a border. These both seem to hold up well and have just the right amount of flex to feel sturdy in my hands. The texture on either is nice and both fan well. Bikes usually just feel too flimsy to me. That said, I often practice with some of the plastic Bikes (Prestige) because I don't have to be too careful with them. They can take abuse and even be washed. I also like the variety of Bike designs. For example, I have a redneck themed party coming up so I bought some of the Red Solo Cup bikes to use there just because it fits the theme. I thought the hemp Bikes would be fun to take to a barter fair or "hemp fest" in Seattle.
I also liked Studs- great combination of price and durability. I practice with Aviators a lot because they're one of the least expensive decks in town ($1.99 a pack!) and are fairly ubiquitous (especially when travelling). I also find them more durable than Bikes.

Overall, I try to get at least one of just about every deck I see when I'm out just to be used to handling a variety of different types of cards. I even get some from the dollar store.
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Red Turner Bicycles. The back design is the most common. Red, because it pops nicely against my dark costume. They faro perfectly and for my signed card routine when I'm strolling, I carry a stack of blank facers. I do occasionally try new decks as they come out, and often will carry one of those funky decks or an uncancelled casino deck for everyday use. But when there's money involved, Turner all the way.
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One must remember that the audience are used to seeing local cards. In the UK, bridge size cards are much more common, it's only magicians who tend to use poker size/make. Alex Elmsley used bridge, mainly Waddingtons, as did Roy Walton, and Walt Maddison (a card great) was a fan of Waddintons and Delesi. I followed their lead and still feel more comfortable with bridge over poker. Bicycle bridge are nice though.

Most of my stuff can be done with any tattered old deck and to me that's the main thing (it suits my style).
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I use the Turner Gold because I like the Bee stock and white borders. I also use Fournier 505 because I like the special feeling with the cards.
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Christian over at Card-Shark has developed same great decks specifically for magicians. They faro perfectly because he has them all cut face up. Here are a couple of links.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......&forum=2

http://www.card-shark.de/index.cfm?lang=en
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I use Bicycle decks as they are cheap and everyone knows them. Here in South Africa the most common deck is the 'League Back'. People never ask to look at the cards. I do most of my tricks with a regular deck, but even when performing the 'invisible deck', I am never asked to give out the cards for examination. I had to construct my own Invisible deck though, as the League Back is not popular in other countries and you can't find any gimmicked decks.
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I use bicycle when I'm at home, because they are cheap, they have a good quality and when they are old I can use them as doubs, so I don't have to destroy a deck wich I bought for 8€ or 11€(in Austria some decks are really expensive). In school or at other places I use Madison dealers, rounders and Smoke and mirrors ( mainly smoke Eco and denim, I like the colors). In Austria most poker cards are notnormal, because Most people do not play poker or black jack, they play "schnapsen" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixty-six_(card_game) so I can use the cards I like the most and I think everyone should to it so
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Can't get away from Bicycles. A lot of trick and gaff have this pattern. But I prefer artisans, Deck One and Monarchs. In Brazil all of these (including Bicycles) are strange to lay people. I show them that ours card can't fan and spread in a beautiful way.
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Hey if you ever want to learn more about Bicycle Stock and finish, you can watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_6bD9eRfu8
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On Jul 28, 2014, myrealsphinx wrote:
In Brazil all of these (including Bicycles) are strange to lay people. I show them that ours card can't fan and spread in a beautiful way.


That's as good a way as any to respond to people who (may) wonder about a deck of cards being a magic/trick deck. Bravo!

"I would like to use regular cards, but they can't do beautiful things like this one can!"
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In terms of custom decks, my favorite is smoke and mirrors v5. In terms of "standard" cards, it's either bikes or aviators.
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Bicycle cards are not that common in Thailand, mostly the common decks are local brands sold in 7-Elevens throughout the country. So the idea that they would not look suspicious to laymen here would not apply. Nevertheless I really love Theory11 decks such as Guardian Bicycles and Monarchs. The Monarch card box itself is so elegantly designed and colored it outshines the cards themselves!!!

In my opinion the only way the Monarchs could be improved is for the backs of the cards to reflect the color scheme of the box. Basically replace all the white colors on the designs and borders of the backs with gold color. The backs would have a navy blue & gold colorway rather than the current navy blue & white colorway. It is a matter of preference of course! Smile
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Bicycle cards are not that common in Thailand, mostly the common decks are local brands sold in 7-Elevens throughout the country. So the idea that they would not look suspicious to laymen here would not apply. Nevertheless I really love Theory11 decks such as Guardian Bicycles and Monarchs. The Monarch card box itself is so elegantly designed and colored it outshines the cards!!!

In my opinion the only way the Monarchs could be improved is for the backs of the cards to reflect the color scheme of the box. Basically replace the white colors on the designs on the backs with gold color. The borders can still remain white in order to preserve the double-lift invisibility. It is a matter of preference of course! Smile
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Over the years, Bicycle simply throw away all their Quality… check their Bicycle seconds you can see very funny stuff sometimes. Even their normal Bicycles, they changed the box, paper stock cannot last long as compared to older version, even changed the pip size smaller so that I do not like at all.

Now they have Bicycle 807 printed the way like 808, still cannot recover how I think of their quality anymore.

I understand that they want magicians all be their customers and do their business to print custom deck. On the other hand I am old school and just want to perform with the most normal deck available in the market. Custom deck I basically buy them for collection.

I got more questions to answer by using custom deck before I even start to perform.

Over the years the only deck I prefer over bicycle was Arrco decks / Old Stud but they discontinue made them, sadly. I still have a dozen each to last though.

Anyway…

It is my fortunate that Expert Playing Card Company and Legends Playing Card Company rises in the last 2 years and bring a lot of good decks.

The design and especially paper stock surpass almost all decks made by Bicycle.

Now I just switch to Legends on daily basis and only use bicycle for effects that use gaff set up.
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If you want good Bicycle (rider back 808s) you have 2 choices:

1. Gold standards: http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S11123

2. Titaniums: https://store.theory11.com/products/bicycle-titanium-edition

Q1 quality, great registration, casino grade stock and awesome tuck cases for less cost that a standard Legends deck
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On Dec 4, 2014, DavidKenney wrote:
If you want good Bicycle (rider back 808s) you have 2 choices:

1. Gold standards: http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S11123

2. Titaniums: https://store.theory11.com/products/bicycle-titanium-edition

Q1 quality, great registration, casino grade stock and awesome tuck cases for less cost that a standard Legends deck


Thanks David. Lucky that I am friend with the owner of Legends playing cards and I got better price on Legends playing cards so I am lucky to have decks I need at really decent price.

It is not easy to 100% switch to other brand and I still use Bicycle 50% of my time. Anyway try Legends, you will find a new option of better playing cards.
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Thanks, but I have most of the Legends decks including the Sharps private reserves
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