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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts |
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On , Howie Diddot wrote: The Judge found that 1) The work was done on the prop. This was shown in a video presented to the court. 2) Mike was not prevented from taking back the prop. In fact, he was actively urged to take it back. These are the legal facts, and we have to accept them, unless Mike is planning to appeal to a different court for a different ruling. The court did NOT order the defendant to return Mike's property. He ordered Mike to pick up his property. He put the onus on Mike, not on the other guy. Mike did not prevail in the case. He lost it. I am glad the thread elsewhere has been removed. It is out of order to call a fellow magician a cheat, especially when the facts flatly contradict this.
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Many trials take place in the public rather than the court room.
Some on TV, others in the paper, magazine or other media. Some take place on the Magic Café. Harris Harris
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General_Magician Special user United States 707 Posts |
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I am a magician and proud of it; there are no plaintiffs or defendants when I'm performing. there is no down side to my profession, I go to a birthday party every weekend, play with my tricks for the children and perform my magic, have birthday cake and some where along the time I'm in the home, someone slips me money. I agree. Mike is a good friend. I am glad and proud to have chosen the profession of magician as well.
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
You are a true friend too. We need more true and honest magicians like you two on the Café so there will be more peace.
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Potty the Pirate Inner circle 4632 Posts |
I find it hysterical that you guys are taking this "trial" seriously. It's entertainment. Dynamike was given the opportunity to present some tricks, there was an argument which the judge resolved, and the circus-style tenor of the show made all that into a scoop of cream for the viewers.
The reality of what the argument was, is beyond irrelevant. Watch Judge Judy, and Divorce Court, for heaven's sake. Brilliantly entertaining, but don't lose any sleep over it! ;) |
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Thanks for the breath of fresh air Potty
Cue the music... That's entertainment. .....and from a sign in my old office... arguing with _________________ is like wrestling with a pig. after a while, you realize the pig is enjoying it. Please pass the ham sandwich. Anyone do any TV parody including any of these Judge Shows.... Remembering Laugh IN Here comes DE JUDGE HERE COMES de Judge Harris remembering rule 62
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3163 Posts |
Mike went on the 'show' for one reason.
1. To get his prop back. 2. Mike got his prop back. So how did he lose the case? I don't get it. Really, I thought that was the purpose of going to court. He got his prop back without having to hire lawyers and all the other expense of going through a real court. So yes, of course he won. And when you think about it, they both won. Tom PS. I thought he did great with the magic. Well Done Mike.
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Howie Diddot Inner circle San Francisco & Los Angeles California 3288 Posts |
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On , TonyB2009 wrote: From the evidence presented in court the work was completed after the defendant was served with papers and the defendant knew he had to perform the work, or lose his case in court. Mike was very concerned about his safety if he returned to the house. Mike was concerned that the accusations would escalate to the authorities being called to the home if he was to knock on the door. When Mike went to court Mike did not know if the work was completed because the defendant did not notify him of the status of the refurbishment; the defendant did not communicate with Mike at all. Had Mike not filed a lawsuit the prop would still in the defendant's garage and Mike would be fearful of approaching the home because of the mom yelling and screaming at him on the telephone. the evidence was clear, she was out of control on the recording and Mike was correct to be concerned. The court served its purpose; the court ordered Mike to pick up the prop because it was completed and ready to be picked up; the prop was completed only because the defendant was served with a lawsuit and failing to complete the prop would mean he would have to reimburse Mike an amount exceeding $4,000.00. Mike definitely prevailed in this court case, he retrieved his prop and the defendant came away with no judgment. |
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
I feel I won too guys. Of course I could have tried to get it back previously, but the fog machine and strobe light were not there when I first found out where he lived. Probably til this day I still would behind the $200 if I did pick it up without going to court. Plus if I went over there previously, his aunt and I could have got into an argument with her calling the police on me. I could have been behind bars. I was serious I wanted back my equipment, that is why I filed a case in Detroit, MI. The Judge Mathis Show (Judge Judy Show too) sent me a letter asking if I wanted to be on their show. I decided yes I will try Judge Mathis Show. I feel like I got a vacation because of the free room and board and witness fee I received. I also received a check from the show for a return of the fee I used to get my equipment. Everything is back as it should be now. But my #1 way I feel I have won is from the edited version of the video for my business. Today the first prospect from Detroit sent me a message asking my entertainment fee from seeing the 2 minute 25 second video promo on Facebook. That will generate me more business.
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Howie Diddot Inner circle San Francisco & Los Angeles California 3288 Posts |
Hey Mike why don't we start suing each other and we can all take turns performing tricks on the courtroom shows and get promo videos to increase everyone business.
Send me a prop and some cash so we can get this thing going |
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
LOL
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3163 Posts |
Yes you definitely came out ahead by going on the show.
Sad that you had too, but still a smart move. Not to mention you will now forever be able to use the words, "As seen on TV." Tom
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
Good one Tommy!!! Thank you. I am surprised I never thought of that. I am extra happy now. I can put that next to the promo video on my website. You are a creative man.
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Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts |
Somewhat ironic that the guy bemoaning constantly about how everybody should just try and get along feels it fine to take his issue with another magician onto a tv show.
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General_Magician Special user United States 707 Posts |
I like Judge Judy's show and it's one of my favorite shows to watch. But I don't think I would want to make an appearance on her show and somehow end up on the recieving end of her wrath. Once a judge turns against you in a case for whatever reason, you're not going to win and you're sunk, especially if it's Judge Judy.
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
I bet Judge Judy would have told me, "Put those toys back in your pocket, this is a courtroom, not a magic shop."
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gimpy2 Special user 960 Posts |
Dynamike,
Enjoyed the show and think you made a good choice not to go on judge judy that lady can be mean for no reason at all. I don't know why I love the show so much. Well gotta go Judy is on.
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
I hope they show a good case today, Gimpy.
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts |
Some of you are missing something important. The judge was clear: he believed that Mike could have picked up the illusion at any time. He completely dismissed Mike's unbelievable claim that he was intimidated by the aunt. So he found against Mike. That is why Mike had to pick up the gear rather than the other guy having to deliver it. Mike could have avoided all this silly fuss if he had bothered to get into his car and drive for half an hour, like any sensible man.
Also someone echoed Mike's allegation that the work on the illusion was only done before the court case. No evidence was presented to suggest this. If you believe the other guy - and the judge clearly did - then the work was done in time.
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
It stills aggravates you I won doesn't it? Well you are going to have to sleep on it.
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