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MagicalAlex New user 51 Posts |
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On Mar 14, 2014, tomsk192 wrote: I cannot discuss my business. But I am sure your brother will know that ideas are worthless without execution. You need to PATENT the idea even if it is PATENT PENDING. Ask him |
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asherfox Veteran user 366 Posts |
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On Mar 14, 2014, MagicalAlex wrote: Is there any presentation? Are you insulting alan? Where is this shameless people come from? |
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MagicalAlex New user 51 Posts |
That's all you perceived from what I wrote? I never mentioned anyone. Generally speaking. Anyways, take it how you want it, I know I have people who would agree and like I said "you cant satisfy everyone"
Have a good weekend folks! |
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asherfox Veteran user 366 Posts |
"Whoever is saying he stole it and e.t.c is a jelous person himself/herself and deff. does not understand and WILL NOT understand why what he did has nothing to do with some unknown people."
It is quite clear. And I must agree with you. "In the real world of business, this talk wouldn�t even exist." People like you don't talk in this way in real world. |
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
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On Mar 14, 2014, MagicalAlex wrote: I don't need to ask him, because what you say is wholly inaccurate. Whatever mysterious 'business' you do, good luck with it. |
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Chezaday Inner circle Naperville, IL 1673 Posts |
Interesting ... way too much to read here online but, I'm going to side with Shin on this one. Many creative minds DO think alike ... it's a simple fact. They are independent thoughts and there is going to be some duplication out there. I've been down this road myself with some illusions I personally designed myself years ago.
Give the guy a break ... I honestly think he's telling the truth at this point. Steve |
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nowyoucme Veteran user 350 Posts |
This looks killer. I don't care if whats his name did it on t.V. then the dumb *** should of put it out. His loss is hiss gain.
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Sean Giles Inner circle Cambridge/ UK 3517 Posts |
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On Mar 15, 2014, nowyoucme wrote: Prat |
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knownmagician Regular user 120 Posts |
Is the any review for this effect?
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MagicalAlex New user 51 Posts |
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On Mar 15, 2014, nowyoucme wrote: Exactly |
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10795 Posts |
I haven't been following this latest Shin release but it looks like a clever update of Omni Deck.
However the demo gives no sense of anything other than the reveal and the dramatic & very typical... "My name is Shin Lim. Welcome to iClear!" Yawn. As I said this looks like a clever update of Bill Palmer & Shawn's Omni - but the real question is in how this is routined to get the clear phone in play. #2 - so now that the specs phone has transformed - how to best reveal their actual phone? With Omni all the moves are justified - and since the deck belongs to the performer - spectator never wonders where the real deck went. So even though the gimmick seems updated/cool and similar... the effect and moves/routining with IClear need to make sense. I saw nothing in the demo that helps me understand how this plays to real people. I admit I haven't read any of the thread pages so if I am asking a dumb question please forgive - I will read up tonight.
Creator of The SvenPad Supreme(R) line of aerospace level quality, made in the USA utility props. https://svenpads.com/
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
You've hit the nail on the head. Switch it out, show the switched object, then switch it back in again. The question is: 'why'?
WMS are offering a free Omni-Pen with every purchase of iClear. Heh. So that would be after you got them to sign their own iPhone with a permanent marker? Or perhaps iClear is the latest amazing and totally logical climax to an ACR. God only knows. |
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10795 Posts |
The why I assume is that it looks cool - especially on video.
Hopefully Shin isn't making another hit and run release - don't disappear Shin! I honestly (as a longtime Omni user) would like to hear how the routine flows.
Creator of The SvenPad Supreme(R) line of aerospace level quality, made in the USA utility props. https://svenpads.com/
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MR Effecto Inner circle 2836 Posts |
Just use your own Iphone. Then you don't have to ask them to take off the case. Then you don't have to give it back.
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airztonne New user 85 Posts |
Then it feels like a gimmick. Or it feels weird.
similar to every "hey look at what I can do!" they will think it's a gimmick. Which honestly is the only think keeping me from getting Iconic (the other iphone effects by Shin Lim) because I don't feel that I can get away with two switches, and people around me knows I don't own apple products... and iphone 6 is coming out in a matter of months too. |
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MR Effecto Inner circle 2836 Posts |
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On Mar 18, 2014, airztonne wrote: Feels like a gimmick. No way. No diff than cards are coins. Its all how you perform it. If you hand then your phone and thay look at it. Open it up thay see its real.Then you turn it clear. Now how would that make then think the phone thay just look at was a gimmick. No diff than the clear deck. |
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
WMS has a video up of Jon using it; he suggests it as a moment of weird after doing a card to phone, or similar. (In other words, using your own phone.) Not for me, but I can see how that could work. There'd be only the initial switch, nice bit of eye candy, then you're left with an impossible object.
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10795 Posts |
Well this does look like one of Shin's better products - but I will stick with Omni deck gimmick as so far I can't see why this is superior.
Murphy's sure seems to be betting the shop on this guy - look at all the ads they support him with. Maybe this will be the winning horse?
Creator of The SvenPad Supreme(R) line of aerospace level quality, made in the USA utility props. https://svenpads.com/
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Mark8infiniti Special user 612 Posts |
I actually want to do this... but my problem is that it's for the iPhone 5 and I only have a 4s. And I would want to do this with my own phone, not borrow a spectators phone and switch it out, back etc, this is all too risky.
iNFiNiTi | The Red Pill Magician | SHOCK NOT IMPRESS
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Jg84 New user 7 Posts |
Hi guys, my name is Jon and I'm new to the Café, I just thought I'd chime in with a quick review for iclear, I got mine from penguin on Monday and think its great, firstly I'd like to comment on the clear block, it is very well made and it looks great, when you hold it in your hand it feels just like a real phone, which is perfect for a revelation in the specs hands, shin teaches 3 routines, a hidden reveal in the specs hands, a vanish using the card box and he also uses an envelope to first make the phone turn clear, and then for it to reappear in the envelope, personally I like turning the phone clear whilst the spec is holding it, I've only shown it to one friend and the reaction was great, I used his phone and he was shocked, the only downside is there are some arts and crafts, it's nothing too hard however I did have to buy something extra which is slightly annoying, but after I bought it I had it all ready within 20 mins, and it looks perfect, as an added bonus shin teaches some very visual instant changes at the end, although I doubt they could be performed in a close up situation, very angle sensitive, but for one person standing in front of you it looks so magical and they're not that hard to execute, all in all I really like it and would recommend it to anyone who likes quick visual magic, that will stun your spectators
Jon |
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