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nattefrost Special user 704 Posts 
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There are a bunch of packet effects out there ("Poker Test" 1 and 2 being one of them, and "Nevermind" being another), that, for the people who own these effects, may have an issue with the thickness of the packet(s). (you are supposed to be showing 5 cards for Poker Test and 4 cards for nevermind). I tried taking some "Phil" style cards,(thin), and I R*****d them together, and they work perfectly! Does Bicycle or any other "poker sized" cards make these type of cards? Imagine not having to worry about the thickness of the cards doing this? I can only seem to find the "Phil" type cards in bridge size. I actually Made a "Poker Test" and a "Nevermind" using these cards. It looks like there is only 5 cards (Poker Test) and 4 cards (Nevermind). I was worried that the r******g f***d would make the thin cards "curl", but a light touch and they didn't. Anybody have any info about this?
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inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2351 Posts
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There are a bunch of packet effects that use extra cards -- more than are supposed to be there, and they go over just fine.
I think you may be suffering from so called "magician's guilt". That said, if you want thin poker size cards, the Phoenix Double Decker is what you want. Pick up some regular Phoenix decks while you're at it and they'll blend right in. See: http://www.card-shark.de/index.cfm?page=......rtID=142 |
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nattefrost Special user 704 Posts
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Inigmntoya- Thanks for the info...maybe you're right about the magicians guilt thing. Funny thing is I have never been questioned or called out on having too many cards. Sometimes maybe due to the weather, the cards might not be perfectly lined up, and I don't mean they are not squared, I mean one card might curl slightly or bend a little bit and they wont be "pressed together" evenly, causing concern. Hopefully it IS just magicians guilt. But I still would feel much safer holding the packet at different angles with the thinner cards and not hold it on the "angle" you need to hold them to hide the thickness.
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Atom3339 Inner circle Spokane, WA 3242 Posts
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Natte, Use your dealing hand first finger to cover the front of the cards. Covers the thickness just fine.
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AaronSterling Veteran user 319 Posts
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On Jun 19, 2014, nattefrost wrote: Choreograph your movement so you manage the bad edge. If/when the edge is "facing" the audience, maintain the cards in relaxed motion. When you stop dead and say "Look at this," ensure that everything is 100% squared up. Video yourself performing the packet trick, and watch what your edges look like. The general rule of thumb is that cards can be pretty far from aligned if you're in motion, especially if you're using a deck with white-bordered backs. If you are interested in more advanced material on this topic, Ascanio volume 2 deals with the handling of double cards. |
eboetcker Regular user Jacksonville, FL 187 Posts
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If you watch the original Poker Test demo video, Gregory Wilson spreads the cards in such a way that they curve with his hand taking away any ability to see the cards "curl." Also, you can just give the cards a convex bend before and after performing, not a huge bend, just something slight to hold them together. Also, on the 2.0 DVD, I go over a method of "restoring" the cards with the freezer. It is crazy effective. You can also use reg. blank cards, but mix in the royal flush phil cards, Poker Test 2.0's gimmick is set up perfectly for that, since I no longer use R****g****d.
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videoman Inner circle 6748 Posts
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I've done Poker Test with the Phoenix Double Deckers, they work fine and do eliminate a lot of thickness.
BUT, that was really only because I already had them available to use anyway. In truth, I have never found the extra thickness with various packet tricks like this to be an issue anyway so while the DD's do make a difference, it certainly isn't a necessity IMHO. |
Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts
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On Jun 23, 2014, AaronSterling wrote: This^^ A lot of practical information that answers your questions. And yes, it does seem that you are plagued by "magician's guilt." Relax! If you are performing with confidence you are already light years ahead of your audience. 
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nattefrost Special user 704 Posts
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Vlad_77, that's my problem. I stand there at the mirror and just hold the packet still and stare at it- looking for imperfections. I know that being in motion will hide that. I'm just thinking that if you used the "thin" cards, all the better. But Like I said earlier, I have not been called out on this- it probably IS just magicians guilt.
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nattefrost Special user 704 Posts
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Although I will honestly say that I DO suffer from confidence issues a lot. I really need to stop that.
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts
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What you have to be careful of is TELEGRAPHING that guilt. If you subconsciously telegraph it, surely the audience will pick up on it.
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AaronSterling Veteran user 319 Posts
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On Jul 13, 2014, nattefrost wrote: Then don't practice in front of the mirror. Luis Zingone famously said magicians should never engage in mirror practice. Video yourself (and watch it LATER, not in the moment), and perform before audiences of any size you can find. Don't be aware of yourself while performing; be aware of the people you are presenting to. |
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