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PX83 New user 15 Posts |
I've recently bought Tranz4mer by Jay Sankey.
I knew the method before buying but loved the effect and wanted to perform it. It is a great effect in my opinion but feels like it works so well, it's result is so impossible, that people have no choice but to reason the correct method. I hoped that I guessed the method because I knew about the kinds of gimmicks on the market. Maybe people jump to the correct conclusion because the brain can't possibly imagine how else it could be done, or they have to accept it was real magic. Have you ever found a trick that is so clean you have to find a way to build elements into the routine to give the spectator a false method. Make it look like there was a slight or move that misleads them away from the real method? If anyone else has bought Tranz4mer I'd love to hear your thoughts. |
inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2350 Posts |
What you're talking about is known as the "Too Perfect" theory.
A good place to start are two essays on the topic in this free eBook: https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic-......in-mind/ I have Tranz4mer, but haven't performed it much (limited performing opportunities in general, nothing against the effect). The routine is structured such that the spectator should believe they've "seen everything" when of course they haven't. If you fully sell that they've seen it all, that should rule out backtracking to the actual method. By "sell" I mean lead/allow the spectators to convince themselves that they've seen it all, not you pushing the point which would draw unnecessary attention and raise suspicion. As such, I don't believe this effect is "too perfect" unless the initial part isn't sold convincingly, such that they see the whole thing, and _remember_ seeing it. |
inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2350 Posts |
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On Jul 18, 2014, inigmntoya wrote: That should have read that it's not "too perfect" unless the initial part isn't sold convincingly. Convincingly = they see the whole thing and _remember_ seeing. PM me if you have questions. |
PX83 New user 15 Posts |
I'll have a good read of the "too perfect" theory.
Thanks for the feedback, I think I'll record my next performance and see if I'm under or over selling any particular aspects. |
AaronSterling Veteran user 319 Posts |
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On Jul 18, 2014, PX83 wrote: Be aware that the "too perfect" theory is controversial. For example, Tommy Wonder was strongly opposed to it, and thought it was leading magic in the wrong direction. I agree with Tommy Wonder, as I usually do, for whatever that's worth. The very short version of my perspective is: the "too perfect" theory correctly states a problem, but provides an incorrect solution to that problem. As a mostly-unrelated thought, it's not the end of the world if some audience members eventually figure out your method. The important thing is that they were entertained in the moment, and remember you with fondness. |
inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2350 Posts |
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On Jul 22, 2014, AaronSterling wrote: Agreed. The 2nd of the two essays at the link above presents (one) counter argument. Quote:
As a mostly-unrelated thought, it's not the end of the world if some audience members eventually figure out your method. The important thing is that they were entertained in the moment, and remember you with fondness. Quite true. "Entertainment First" - George Schindler |
PX83 New user 15 Posts |
I'll take a look at it and see if I think there is any merit. But this is a theory and there will also be counter arguements. It's good to stretch the grey matter.
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As a mostly-unrelated thought, it's not the end of the world if some audience members eventually figure out your method. The important thing is that they were entertained in the moment, and remember you with fondness. Also agreed, I don't mind particularly if they work it out as long as they appreciate the trick. But its nice if they can't. The smile tends to be bigger for them and for me. |
Zenn New user Waterloo, Ontario 1 Post |
Tranz4mr has actually been one of my go to effects for years. Since the beggining I've gotten a lot of milage out of it. It's got me gigs and just a picture on facebook has been enough to get people wanting to see my magic. I was actually a bit sad when Sankey stopped selling it on his website and had to find an alternate way of getting the gimmick.
About this trick, I've never had the method pieced back together. There are a few things, however, that I think are ideal for this trick: 1) The sense of urgency - when getting the card signed, saying something along the lines of "Can you quickly sign the card" adds justification for getting it signed in a certain way (quickly being the important word) 2) Time Lapse - You really need to find an ideal time lapse between the signature, the second card selection, and the tear. Patter is very important for this. I've never used the provided patter, try switching it up if you feel the provided patter helps piece it back together 3) A convincing switch - however you choose to switch the card is up to you, but make it convincing. I prefer a top change but if your DL is convinving (I'm not saying do a DL that will be perfect under a magician's microscope, but good enough to fool your audience) 4)The reveal - Finding the right speed that fits your performance will help. That speed is very important to optimize the audience reaction. Sometimes you'll want to do it at a quicker pace to give a more "catch the audience off guard" type of feel, other times a super slow reveal that builds tension/anticipation is the way to go |
PX83 New user 15 Posts |
Thanks for the advice. I've played with this a lot more and have found a few alternate routines with that killer reveal at the end. I have a feeling there's still plenty of mileage in this gimmick. Just wish more selections were available.
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Galileo Elite user Somerville MA 431 Posts |
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On Jul 18, 2014, inigmntoya wrote: Thanks for the link the book was well worth the read. |
DynaMix Inner circle 1148 Posts |
If I'm not mistaken, split decision by joshua jay is a good (similar) alternative if you run out of sankeys trick...
I use both and I've had specs deduce the right method. Even with a strong top change and the deck already put away at the moment of magic. I've also had specs completely blown away at the end... Still a go to effect for me. |
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