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KendallScot Regular user Denver, Colorado 133 Posts |
I bought one of the original Pom Pom sticks made by (I think) Kovari back in the 80's. Somehow over the years it has been misplaced. Looking online is turning up a few cheap-o knock-offs but I can't find the original. I guess they are not made any more? Does anyone know where I can get the good old version with large pompoms and solid color PVC tube? I've seen Pete Biro's plumbers version and that does not fit my style.
Also, if someone has one they wish to sell, let me know!
Kendall Scot
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
I picked one up at an estate sale about 25 years ago! --It was cheap, so I bought it to "play with"--in the hope that I could develop a routine for the working act. A few months later,I did(!), and, it has been "in" since then. Yes, It's a practical prop!
I haven't seen a used Kovari, in many years. Twin Cities Magic Shop (St. Paul Minnesota, put out a very nice one (not junk) a few years ago. I don't know if they still make it. Kovari's was a fine working prop. Twin made it of metal with a plastic insert. The necessary "motive force" was a better quality that Anverdi's.
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wwhokie1 Special user 512 Posts |
You can buy it direct from Kovari. I bought one a few years back and he shipped to USA. Its the best option, works fantastic. Mine has an orange tube and large colorful Pom Poms.
http://www.kovarimagic.com/Catalogue/Wor......_13.html I believe the price conversion would be about $76 plus shipping. Its worth the price for quality. mark |
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Rodney New user Texas 40 Posts |
That's a great trick I haven't thought about in quite some time. Now that no one is performing at they could be a perfect time to bring it back.
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Hey Rodney! I am doing it, and I aint "no one" (hee hee)
I did sell my back up to Steve Reynolds, and he is using it, too. The only "problem" I see with it, is that almost everyone who does do it, seems to use Doug Henning's presentation and patter. Roy Kissell passed along a premise for a totally different prop, back in 1964, Hank Moorehouse suggested the premise in his lecture few years back, but Hank's presentaion was a "throwaway" bit. I spent some time playing with the prop and Roy Kissell's idea. It went into the high school show in the fall of 1985. It took a couple of weeks to get the timing "right", but, it plays well, and runs two minutes. BTW: Kovari makes a nice prop, but ye gods! 45 pounds! The inventor, again btw, is Louis Histed. Posted: Aug 8, 2014 09:45 pm P.S. I've been "prevailed upon". So, I wrote up the complete presentation and patter for the POM POM in my upcoming book.
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Stevethomas Inner circle Southern U.S.A. 3728 Posts |
I was recently given a Kovari pom-pon stick from the estate of an old friend of mine.
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jimgerrish Inner circle East Orange, NJ 3209 Posts |
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On Aug 8, 2014, Dick Oslund wrote: According to Louis Histed, in his 1947 book "The Magic of Louis Histed", he is NOT the inventor and he knows that the trick was very old when he first learned of it. So far, no one seems to know who the inventor was. Histed guessed it might be Tom Sellers, but wasn't sure.
Jim Gerrish
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Hey~ Thanks "Jing"! I "missed" that book! Hekk, I was still in high school in '47! --And, I was interested mainly in sleight of hand in those days. I had "graduated" (in my mind) from "box tricks", in '47.
The reason I mentioned Histed was to give proper credit (I thought!) to Histed. Like the "P N" inventor Bob Carver, too many magical originator's names get "lost", and the younger generation ought to know on whose inventive genius, their "miracles" depend! Now, you have me "wondering"! Did Histed possibly "improve" the original (Sellers??)? --I'm thinking of the little round m*****s)--I don't recall the little round things being invented in '47. Hmmm!
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KendallScot Regular user Denver, Colorado 133 Posts |
Well I just lucked out!! I found an original, barely used Kovari Pom Pom Stick for sale on Ebay for $15.95. The seller didn't really know what it was so I am haaaaaaaapy! I also came up with a new patter for the routine based on "scientific" String Theory... Can't wait to add it to the show but I have to wait about 7 days for shipping...
Come to think of it, I think I paid about that much back in the late '70's when I bought the first one.
Kendall Scot
"The art of a magician is to create wonder. If we live with a sense of wonder, our lives will be filled with joy" **Doug Henning** "I drank WHAT?"" **Socrates** |
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jimgerrish Inner circle East Orange, NJ 3209 Posts |
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On Aug 10, 2014, Dick Oslund wrote: There's a much longer history documenting the Equal-Unequal Ropes as it was known BEFORE P.N. Suffice it to say that it seems to have had many inventors before Bob Carver, the first of them being Douglas Kelley and Vincent Lynch who developed the basic idea in the 1920s. It's documented in my variation on Whit Haydn's Mongolian Pop Knots, which, in itself, is a variation on the Equal-Unequal Ropes. But we digress. Back to Pom Pom history: I am about to twist history a bit with my version of Roy Benson's String Sticks (Chinese Wands, you may call them) by making the third stick turn out to be a Pom Pom stick posing as one of the trio, only with two tassels, one on each end of the third stick. It's in progress now in my Kitchen Workshop (no power tools allowed!) and needs only a few more photos before publication sometime in September. I'm surprised that no one thought of tying the Pom Pom premise with the Chinese Sticks before... or am I mistaken in that notion? If I am, please help set me straight so I can include accurate citations in the e-Book.
Jim Gerrish
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StevieDee Regular user Salt Lake City area 154 Posts |
Jim, I don't know if your idea has ever been done before, but I love it! Great thinking.
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Ammusionist New user 2 Posts |
I've just made myself a set out of PVC and some other hardware bits. Never owned one before but watched it performed enough to figure out the gimmick.
Made it with 2 pairs of opposing magnets so it doesn't reconnect twisted. Had an interesting time working out the right string to use - Ended up with some nice red, shiny cord from a fabric shop. still not 100% happy, but it works nicely enough. When all pom poms are pulled out fully, you can stand the stick up and it looks like a little marionette man, that you can then hypnotise and so a silly sawing in half thing to show the inside empty. (note - Don't make him too cute or the sawing thing will be traumatic for little kids!) |
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
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On Aug 20, 2014, jimgerrish wrote: Sorry, I didn't get back here sooner... Jim...I remember a bit in a book "Fifteen Minutes With A Piece Of Rope" (R. W. Hull)that I borrowed from my teen age pal, Robert M. Blue. It used the concept of the interlocked bights for a "stretching" bit. The next time I saw the concept was in Gene Gordon's shop in 1959 when I spent a buck with Gene for the PN. I didn't use the PN until 1971! (I didn't like the set up technique. Then, using Slydini's "use" of the Edw. Victor c&r, Denny Loomis and I developed a routine somewhatlike Pop Haydn's Mongolian. We even developed a final bluff restoration before Conway. The whole routine involved Karl Germaine's c&r, Slydini's cut, Carver's PN and Loomis & Oslund's bluff restoration, It played very well,and opened the high school program for about 5 or 6 seasons. (Every spring, I had "bushels" of PN's! When Karrell realized that the Gen Grant "50/50" c&r method was adaptable to the PN, he passed it along, and I started using it regularly. --It's the "best thing since sliced bread"! Your concept of adding a pom pom stick to the Roy Benson HINDU sticks routine, sounds clever--and very intriguing! Oh! On a tour in northern Montana about20 years ago, I met a local who claimed to have invented the pom pom! (Well, he HAD made one out of PVC pipe! Best...Dick
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
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On Sep 24, 2014, Ammusionist wrote: You are 'new' so I'll try to say this very tactfully! This ia an "open" forum. We don't discuss DETAILS/METHODS HERE! There is a Secret Sessions that will open up for you when you've made 50 posts. You are "tipping the work" on a commercial prop.
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
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On Aug 8, 2014, Dick Oslund wrote: Now that makes me happy! I have drawn a blank trying to come up with something. A great little prop! Doug |
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
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On Sep 29, 2014, Dougini wrote: Doug! I'm PMing you re: Pom Pom routine.
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Thank you Dick! It's a fun little thing to play with. I'm looking forward to your book!
Doug |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
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StevieDee Regular user Salt Lake City area 154 Posts |
Pete, I bought of a set of your Plumber's Poles many years ago, and they are sheer genius, not to mention inherently funny. It's one of those "wish I'd thought of that" props. I went to a lot of trouble trying to figure out how to make them squirt water as a blow-off. I finally settled on a loaded ear syringe on a pull. It was messy but funny, simple but effective.
In Mike Caveney's wonderful "Wonders" book, I discovered that he went to a ridiculous amount of brilliant effort to get a similar effect, but with a much more powerful stream of water. I, on the other hand. stopped at the ear syringe, which is because I was lazy while Mike Caveney is Mike Caveney. He took the idea several levels higher. Another "wish I'd thought of that." Sigh. |
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Caliban Special user 727 Posts |
Apparently Paul Daniels is opening with the Pom Pom Stick on his current UK tour.
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