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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10795 Posts |
Café member, friend and top locksmith Tom Console just sent me the skinny on this new lock effect from creator Jason Palter. It looks quite ran and apparently cones out in October. I don't currently own a lock effect but this one looks superb - price seems on the higher side but it seems to have some advantages.
I'm curious as to how hands off this is after spectator tries the Non working combos? Here is the description: Jason Palter's T.U.R.N. is unlike any other lock effect on the market. ANY 4-digit number combination can be revealed with 100% accuracy every time! No pre-show, and no forces. One of countless possible EFFECTS: You display a 4-digit Master® adjustable combination lock that has 10,000 possible sequences, set the lock to a number that only you know, and then mix up the dials. A spectator inputs as many combinations as they'd like—proving that the lock really is LOCKED, and that not just any 4 numbers will open it. The spectator chooses 4 random audience members, who each call out ANY number between 0 and 9. There are no forces or influencing of any sort, and during this time, the spectator has been holding the lock on stage while he/she dials in the 4 numbers that are announced. Then to everyone's complete astonishment, the spectator pulls on the shackle and the lock opens with a resounding "click"—an amazing climax that will leave your audience stunned! Imagine these other possibilities: Picture being able to read 4 members of the audience's minds, and have their randomly chosen numbers open the lock...Or approach a group at a table and explain that you set the lock to a prediction, and then reveal that a spectator's 4-digit secret passcode to their phone is the only number that unlocks the lock...Or have an audience member's favourite moment in time (past or future) be the only sequence that will open the lock!...The incredible possibilities are truly endless with "T.U.R.N.", and that is why we call it The Ultimate Random Number Lock (T.U.R.N.). Details to remember: Truly ANY 4 numbers between 0 and 9 can be called out; no forces, so there is a different outcome every time! Can be performed on stage or close-up Self-contained single lock (nothing taken away or added), and no switches Absolutely no confederates, or pre-show work Random combination can be set in front of audience, or even before the show starts if you prefer No magnets, no threads, no peeks, no electronics, no remote control, no buttons, no gravity switch, no timers Reset is literally instantaneous, and can be done in full view of the audience Completely mechanical, and built to last a lifetime Uses a very common looking Master® lock that can be found at local hardware stores, Walmart, etc. Comes complete with specially custom-prepared lock, instructional DVD, and tons of bonus routines. http://www.paltergeist.com/turn.php
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Harry the magic man Loyal user Spokane, Washington 270 Posts |
I don't have one either but this one intrigued me yesterday so I clicked on the banner here at the Café. It looks quite nice and might be getting it for Christmas. I think if you have it locking something it might be more cohesive with the storyline of your show. For walk around, put their ring on it or something. Just some thoughts floating around in my head.
Best wishes, Harry
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And the creation Between the emotion And the response Falls the Shadow Life is very long- T.S. Eliot "The Hollow Men" |
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
Do I read it right that the spectator is holding the lock and tries to open it with random numbers and while still holding it the audiences selection is revealed and works? If so, it seems very strong.
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10795 Posts |
I think so. Watch the demo video although there may be edits.
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george1953 Inner circle Mallorca (Spain) 5943 Posts |
Looks very nice, large size but at that price I will wait for the reviews.
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Legendary Wizard Inner circle The Wizard , The Legend 162,885,947,3659, 1694 Posts |
For 195 I guess this is possible . Hope it can really achieve what it says , that is : the spectator can turn as many times as they wish and it will turn out to be all wrong . Kind of impossible but , who knows ?
" Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one " ...
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Legendary Wizard Inner circle The Wizard , The Legend 162,885,947,3659, 1694 Posts |
I assume locking the spectator's ring inside will create some atmosphere , won't it ?
" Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one " ...
- Albert Einstein |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12945 Posts |
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On Aug 29, 2014, brehaut wrote: It seems strong but I have one question. What if the audience members call out 3489 and the wise acre keeper of the lock enters in 3477? Will the lock open? |
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robvh Elite user Calgary, AB 440 Posts |
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On Aug 29, 2014, brehaut wrote: I find the copy slightly misleading though the way it's described is likely the way the audience will remember it. If you watch the video closely, you'll notice that Jason has the volunteer try several combinations on stage. He then gives the lock to an audience member to try before handing the lock back to the volunteer. That means that in between the last failed attempt and the successful attempt, the performer does briefly handle the lock. It's not *REAL MAGIC*, folks, it's magic! Will the audience remember that brief moment when the performer holds the lock as he returns it to the volunteer? It's a motivated action under the pretense of reinforcing how fair everything is so I doubt the audience will remember it. That being said, motivating that particular action is going to be easiest in a parlour situation where the audience is close. On stage, you could use several volunteers with some separation between them to motivate you carrying the lock. Close-up would be the hardest to pull off though I would assume Jason provides some ideas on the DVD. What I would like to know is how freely spectators can handle the lock. If they twist, turn, push and pull the locking bar or other components is there a chance that they will "activate it"? Or is the process of activating something you can't stumble upon yet quick to execute? As with many such effects, you'll have to use some good audience management. Once that volunteer gets the lock back, if they pull on the bar before putting in the final combo, the jig is up! Are they likely to pull in it after having tried repeatedly already just a few moments earlier? Probably not but it depends on the person and on good management. |
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jaizon Inner circle By time you read this I will have 1552 Posts |
I believe would see the number the keeper of the lock enters, so if it is not the one called out you could point that out. The numbers are quite visible.
I am very interested in this, but would love to hear some real world feedback. |
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robvh Elite user Calgary, AB 440 Posts |
It's an attractive lock and in the right hands with the right presentation I see no reason why this shouldn't play well.
I'm curious how it compares with other similar locks on the market. |
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
[quote]On Aug 29, 2014, robvh wrote:
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On Aug 29, 2014, brehaut wrote: Wondering the same thing. Looks like you have to touch it before final revelation. If that's the case I don't believe it justifies $195.00 price tag. Though- let's wait for some reviews, maybe we are wrong....
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10795 Posts |
I'm fairly certain the performer must touch it to engage somehow. We all know how this stuff usually goes.
You guys are asking some wonderful questions and I can't wait to hear more. I agree this looks better for parlor or stage rather than close up.
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geggy Elite user Brighton UK 477 Posts |
As clever as this piece of engineering is, its almost too obvious. There is only one conclusion specs can come up with and they will be right.
A lot of bucks for something that wont fool many folks with an ounce of logic. |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12945 Posts |
My supa lock doesn't require the magi to ever hold it. Of course it's not numbers which holds a certain facination.
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Myke Phillips Inner circle Myke Phillips 1213 Posts |
Locks great! Very tempted.
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Legendary Wizard Inner circle The Wizard , The Legend 162,885,947,3659, 1694 Posts |
Hope this will available on other dealers as well .
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MagicDamo Regular user 148 Posts |
Looks nice except for the price tag I think I'll stick to my Supalok.
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Jason Palter V.I.P. 335 Posts |
Hello all:
I’m floating around here, because I’m also the Special Guest on the Café for the next few days (so please be sure to come and visit me there and ask some questions too! lol) Thank you for the great comments and questions on my T.U.R.N. trick, so let me try to answer them for you: 1. Yes you can totally have it locking something (like a security box, your case of props, etc.) if you want to make that part of the routine. 2. You can do it close-up/walkaround…..And putting a ring on it, and having the “prediction” that you set on it being the 4 numbers to match the anniversary date, or the last 4 digits in their phone number, etc., is a great idea for a routine! 3. Yes Brehaut and Magician560, you are correct. The lock numbers are set in front of the audience (or you can bring the lock out and explain that you set the numbers earlier on before the show). A spectator tries to open the lock numerous times and cannot; it is LOCKED! And yes after the “secret something” is done by the performer (on the off-beat and totally a subtle part of the routine), the spectator is holding the lock, dials in the numbers themselves, and opens the lock themselves too! The secret has fooled every magician I’ve shown this to! 4. What you see in the video is a shortened version of the routine, however it is chronologically correct as that routine I did at both events goes. 5. John C, you have a valid question, but as the performer you just need to employ a bit of audience management to ensure that a wise a** spectator doesn’t enter the wrong combination. lol If you watch on the video, I’m sort of supervising the spectators as they are doing it. 6. Robvh, you are correct, the performer does have to handle the lock briefly, but as I mention above it is done on the off-beat. You’re also correct that the way it is structured within the context of the trick and routine (close-up or stage), the audience doesn’t even remember. Funny story: During development, a couple of magicians saw me do the trick at an event, and I afterwards revealed how it was done to them. Believe it or not, BOTH of them looked puzzled and said, “But you never touched the lock.”. It was done on such an offbeat that they didn’t even recall it, and only remembered once I reminded them. lol…….When the spectator is handling the lock at the beginning, he/she can handle it very freely—they won’t be able to open it. Once they have it back in their hands after the “secret something” is done, again they can freely handle it while dialling in the numbers and then opening the lock. Again, some audience management is done here, but it is very simple and easy; I’ve never had a problem. 7. The trick works beautifully well either close-up or stage. I just happened to have 2 stage events when I shot the demo (one had about 35 people and the other about 200). 8. T.U.R.N. is a genuine Master lock, but they have each been gimmicked and worked on by hand. 9. These are available directly from my site, and also from dealers. If your favourite dealer doesn’t have them listed, then please just have them contact me for wholesale info so they can get them in stock! Please let me know if you have any other questions……and also pop over to the “Special Guest” section if you have a chance and say “hey”. Thanks! Best regards, Jason |
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5925 Posts |
Looks awesome! Including the price tag. Lets keep the curious secret hoarders away as much as possible.
A bargain for a working stage or parlor piece which packs tiny and plays huge. |
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