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magician 336
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Hello everyone,

Jacob here, I wanted to briefly share my FIRST release. I appriciate all the support and to get this out of the way off the bat, if you have criticism, please make it valid and constructive. I don't want to be another creator being smashed because someone doesn't like that there is preshow or claims that "this is unworkable" which it isn't because I am doing it constantly, I'll be doing it next week at the Ohio State University in fact.

With all that in mind, thank you all for all the influences over the past few years and it is now time to que the adcopy.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/4785

Imagine being able to deliver (as well as practice) flawless stage readings based on graphic cold readings to an audience without any chance of failure, being able to divine images/memories merely thought of by the audience members and finally being able to have them in fact confirm that ALL of the proceedings are thoughts they are having in real time without anything EVER being written down!

I know it sounds impossible, so let's get a few things straight on what exactly this is. This is NOT something that is going to include a full presentational script, that is open to your interpretation and it is your job as a creative individual to come up with that on your own. I am simply presenting a gestalt canvas for you to take and paint up your own personality upon.

Furthermore, the method included is not some new concept or gizmo that will change the way you perform forever, but at the same time it is a unique arrangement of classic methods that at this point is brand new to the field. I've jealously guarded this for about a year and kept it quiet except between close friends in the art, so without further ado, this is Drawn To You.

Finally a mind reading act that requires nothing more than an audience, and a trained mind! Drawn To You is completely prop-less demonstration of mind reading that engages the entire audience, builds in drama and ends with an entire audience experiencing mind reading under test conditions.

The act opens with a completely none written demonstration of doing readings from stage, an intimate experience of the mind reader revealing a memory the volunteer freely thinks of in real time and finally a duplication of a picture taken from the memory itself! The volunteer on stage never writes any information down, is randomly selected by the audience and is in no way or shape a confederate!
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Seems intresting enough, very holy grail esk and I'm intrested in seeing the reviews for this one.
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Can this be done one on one? Or are at least 2 members in an audience required?

Mindblowingly,
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Hey guys,

Thanks for the interest, this is in no way a Holy Grail in my opinion, but it sure is a lot of fun to perform and share with a larger audience. The least amount of people I would do this with would be five. Not to give too much away, but this is basically using something we all use, in reverse, but it's pretty clever in my opinion as to how it's all justified. I wanted to do something that looked real and felt real to the entire audience and I think I managed to succeed with this.

Thanks for your interest and please do contact me as well as leave some words here if you do purchase it. I really wanted to charge like $25 for this, but I realized I am just a no name and wanted to let people get an idea who I am before I drop my other more interesting works on the market.
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How much p**-sh** does this involve?
Some people hear voices.. Some see invisible people.. Others have no imagination whatsoever.
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Apologies if I posted this in the wrong section, but this only requires approximately one minute of work prior to the demonstration, it's the little bit of dirty work that happens before the piece that creates a frick'n miracle. ;{D I want to be as honest in my dishonesty as possible because I've been jipped before and I DO NOT want that image or stigma attached to my name in any way. If anyone is not pleased with their purchase, simply contact me with a proof of purchase and I will gladly make it right with you, not a refund per say because that is out of my hands, but I'll share something else with you from my working set. That little offer is based on the honesty system, so please don't take advantage of the offer just to get more, which I don't think most will do, but some may. Hope you are all having a blessed day and thank you for your time as well as your interest in what I do.

-Jakob
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Jakob,

That is a very kind gesture. I am sure people will respect your offer and be honest in kind.
Michael
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Jakob,

I hope this passes your valid and constructive criticism demand: I'm not sure the claim in your ad copy that: "The volunteer on stage...is randomly selected by the audience" is actually met in the routine as presented?
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From the perspective of the audience, yes they are randomly selected via a process of elimination re-framed as readings from stage. I wrote the description from the audience's perspective because that is what you are really paying for in the end. Hope this answers your question.
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Sorry Jacob, I don't see how you can reasonably say that the person who ends up on stage is randomly selected by the audience. A process of elimination that YOU conduct leaves several audience members standing, from whom YOU choose the participant. That is exactly what the audience will see.

I honestly think you should re-write your ad copy so that it better reflects what people will be paying for.
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Ok Martin, I'll make you a deal. I am performing this on Thursday for two different groups of fifty people at the Ohio State University. I will be recording my talk/demonstrations and will take a poll with the students just to prove a point afterwards. If any of them make your claim that it appeared to them, the layperson opinion that pays my bills, that it was unfair then I will gladly go through and change all of my ad copy. Now, that being said, I'm sorry if that came out bad and if you want me to send you something else because of that little point there then I will gladly hold up on my offer from before.

On a side note, I have some friends that have read this (including versions from about a year ago) and came up with little things within it, would any of you be interested in a free updated edition down the road when I can compile everything? Hope everyone is having as much fun with this as I am, with some of my favorite speakers/performers giving me such great feedback, such as James Brown and Andy Cannon, I am absolutely delighted to finally stop beading with sweat wondering how it will be perceived by the community. Thank you all for your love and support, have a blessed weekend!

-Jakob
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Don't worry Jakob,

Martin is always moaning about something! One day he might make a positive post, then again, I could win the lottery!

I really like the sound of this and may pick it up soon.

Do you not go to the Penguin lectures any more?
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I think Martin is making a valid point here. The ad copy (as far as I'm seeing) doesn't say "this is what the audience sees", it says randomly selected audience member. It's not much to ask that it be chopped from the ad copy. It doesn't hurt the effect to remove it, but it can lead to negative reviews by those who (through no fault of their own) read that and assume there is no control over the selection.

And Jakob, regardless of what your audience may say, it's a completely different situation. Martin isn't your audience, he's a potential purchaser - and he deserves to not be misled by ad copy. Ether add "what the audience sees" or remove the sentence about random selection. It's really that simple.

Having said that, the effect sounds good, and I wish you luck with it. I might check it out, myself.
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On Oct 24, 2014, Adam Paul wrote:
Don't worry Jakob,

Martin is always moaning about something! One day he might make a positive post, then again, I could win the lottery!

I really like the sound of this and may pick it up soon.

Do you not go to the Penguin lectures any more?


Adam,

I post many positive comments (in recent days I have posted positive thoughts about items sold by Michael Murray, Matthew Mello and Richard Osterlind). But I post them when I like a product or performance. If I have an issue with something I post, what you are judging to be, a negative comment.

You may find it helpful that the Café is increasingly turning into a place where friends praise each other's self-published creations but I would prefer it to retain a little of its original flavour: a place where mentalists could honestly discuss their art and the products being sold to the community.

Jacob is charging for an effect. I'm paying him the courtesy of treating him like a professional selling a product (I'm sure he has lots of friends and family who can wish him luck etc). As a professional product it is, in my opinion, incredibly poorly written, badly proof read (if at all) and the advertising is false (whether from the audience or the purchasers point of view).

I note, however, that whereas I have paid for the effect and so am writing from an informed point of view on its contents, you haven't, and so have no idea if I am correct or not but clearly simply wished to get a little dig in at me.

If you think I'm wrong, buy the effect and tell fellow Café members why. Then you'll be a "magician helping magicians".
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I took the plunge and purchased "Drawn to To".

I am disappointed that at only 4 pages there so little 'detail' in the manuscript. This is essentially a broad brushstrokes outline of a routine.

Jacob did say in the ad blurb that, This is NOT something that is going to include a full presentational script, that is open to your interpretation and it is your job as a creative individual to come up with that on your own. I am simply presenting a gestalt canvas for you to take and paint up your own personality upon.

That's fair enough, however there is one essential 'element' of the routine (amongs others) which Jacob mentions that I feel needed to be more fully described in the manuscript.

Reference is made to other sources that Jacob uses in the routine but you'll have to obtain those other works to understand how they apply to the routine.

The 'core' idea and 'aim' of 'Drawn to You' is nice and in my mind's eye I can imagine that when properly presented the routine should play as described.

I think though Jacob has done himself a disservice by releasing the manuscript in it's present form. As a FIRST release I would imagine that you'd want your routine to be as fully described as possible. The end goal presumably is for purchasers to have enough information at hand to go out and perform the routine (with their own spin on it of course).

I don't think there is enough detail in 'Drawn to You' to enable most people to do that.

Cheers,
Lar.
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If the selection process looks genuinely clean and that is how the effect comes across and it's how the routine has been constructed then the advertisement sounds fair.
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The volunteer is not randomly selected by the 'audience' as it states in the ad blurb.

To clarify...

Initially the whole audience participates in the effect and is asked to imagine some 'things'.

The performer sets some broad parameters as to what they should imagine which are broad enough so that different groups of audience members will be imagining the same things.

The performer presents a series of 'macro readings' to groups audience members based upon on the 'things' they are imagining. These readings are not addressed to specific individuals, rather they are addressed to the audience as a whole somewhat like Bob Cassidy's 'Scorpios Message'.

Even a brief outline of the nature and possible content of these 'macro readings' is not documented in manuscript. I don't understand why Jacob chose to omit them because they are an important part of the routine. At the very least some broad 'ideas' as to how to present the 'macro readings' (which are specific to the routine) would have been immensely helpful and added value to the manuscript.

After a few of these 'macro readings' there will be some members of the audience left for whom the readings did not apply. One of these audience members will become your 'volunteer' and YOU ostensibly choose them at random and invite them on stage to assist you.

With the audience member that YOU (not the audience) seemingly select at random you do a more detailed reading based upon the 'things' they are imagining. You are able to duplicate the image they are thinking of.

The manuscript does not detail the process or methods of revealing 'memories' to strengthen the eventual reveal. For that you will need to be up to speed with the published work of other authors.

One of the things that drew me to this effect was the statement in the ad blurb that the volunteer is 'randomly selected' by the audience. This implied (at least to me) that I as the performer would not know who the volunteer would be before you start the effect (i.e. no pre-show) because the volunteer would be randomly selected by the audience.

The selection of a known volunteer is well disguised and congruent with the overall presentation, however it is the performer (not the audience) that eventually selects the on-stage volunteer, which is not what the ad blurb suggests.

Cheers,
Lar
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