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Keith Mitchell
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Just received my Gothic Chop set from Big Blind Media. Comes with Cup, balls, skull headed wand. The cup has skull-cross bone plastic with aluminum inner/rim cup that performs like a well made chop cup. The balls Look and feel like mummified balls. The wand has skull head on one end and cord wrapped stick on the other pointy end that looks like a voodoo stick. It all looks pretty cool and the chop cup works like a dream in the palm of your hand.

Now all I gotta do is dress up like a gothic pirate and figure out a cool routine.

A great set for anyone's collection
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This baby is sweet looking...
http://www.bigblindmedia.com/gothic-chop-cup-set
Thanks for the heads up!
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Forgot to mentioned that it also comes with black bag.
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Nice looking set. Are the balls hard material? Do they talk?

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On Nov 20, 2014, Keith Mitchell wrote:

The balls Look and feel like mummified balls.



Just curious, how does one know what "mummified balls" would look and feel like?
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Yes, the balls talk a little bit. They look mummified because they are wrapped with some kind of cloth which concerns me because they could very easily become dirty. I tested out RNT-2's chop ball and it works really well, although they were slightly bigger. Right now I am searching for a cool final load.
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Big eyeballs!
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I think the dirtier the balls got the better looking they'd be. No ball you use will remain pristine and unsoiled with use. Unless you don't use them all that much. My 30 year Mike Rogers baseballs have mellowed to almost a ivory color from use.

One could call the cup a Coptic jar. It was used to store the removed innards of an indiviual undergoing mummification. They could just be wrapped up charms or amulets for protection.

Interesting looking props nevertheless.
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Thanks Harry Murphy for the patter ideas, it sounds like something I could use.
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Big eyeballs!


Just placed an order for fake eyeball that looks like it has been ripped out of someone's head, I just hope it fits inside the cup. This is gonna be cool.
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I frequent this blog and often enjoy the commentary, but think he missed the point here...
http://weeklymagicfailure.blogspot.com/2......ign.html
I understand the criticism, but the logic is wrong. Yes, the cup and wand are obviously props, but the cup should be perceived as a cup, right? So it should be seen correctly when the mouth is facing up, not down. The skull should be upside down when the cup is turned upside down.

His logic is upside down and wrong side up. The cup is fine as is.
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I don't care what they say, there is a reason why I like my cups, because in my eyes they are cool.
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One could call the cup a Coptic jar. It was used to store the removed innards of an indiviual undergoing mummification. They could just be wrapped up charms or amulets for protection.



I believe you mean a Canopic Jar.
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I frequent this blog and often enjoy the commentary, but think he missed the point here...
http://weeklymagicfailure.blogspot.com/2......ign.html
I understand the criticism, but the logic is wrong. Yes, the cup and wand are obviously props, but the cup should be perceived as a cup, right? So it should be seen correctly when the mouth is facing up, not down. The skull should be upside down when the cup is turned upside down.

His logic is upside down and wrong side up. The cup is fine as is.


I don't trust reviews from cowards who refuse to sign their names to them. He (or she) did not even spell the name of the company correctly.
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I don't trust reviews from cowards who refuse to sign their names to them. He (or she) did not even spell the name of the company correctly.


Mr. Palmer, Roland Henning might or might not be a "coward", but not because he refuses to sign his name to his posts.

Look directly under any of his posts and you will see "complaints go to Roland Henning".

And, since Roland is German, I don't think he misspelled the word blind. Isn't *bild* a German word? Perhaps he meant this as a play on words?

Respectfully...

Dean

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I agree with him about the orientation of the skull.
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But Kabbalah, if the cup were designed so the skull was the right side up when it is upside down, it may look better, but it announces itself as a prop. I realize it is a prop given that it doesn't look like anything in the real world, but at least a story could be build around it being a usable cup. If it is designed to be upside down, it is no longer a cup. It is a cover for a ball.
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Bill Palmer is right again, they are called Canopic jars and there were usually 4 of them
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Yep Bill, Canopic Jar is exactly what I meant! Thick thumbs, stupid iPhone, and equally stupid me for rushing to respond. Canopic Jar is what it is. Thanks!!!
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Yep Bill, Canopic Jar is exactly what I meant! Thick thumbs, stupid iPhone, and equally stupid me for rushing to respond. Canopic Jar is what it is. Thanks!!!


Here is what I found on the Internet. What is a coptic Jar? This is a common mistake. The copts are the descendants of the first
Christians in Egypt. So, a coptic jar would be a jar supposedly made by them.

Canopic jars were used by Ancient Egyptians from the time of the Old Kingdom up until the time of the late Period or the Ptolemaic Period.
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On Nov 24, 2014, Bill Palmer wrote:

I don't trust reviews from cowards who refuse to sign their names to them. He (or she) did not even spell the name of the company correctly.


Mr. Palmer, Roland Henning might or might not be a "coward", but not because he refuses to sign his name to his posts.

Look directly under any of his posts and you will see "complaints go to Roland Henning".



I missed that -- my bad.

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And, since Roland is German, I don't think he misspelled the word blind. Isn't *bild* a German word? Perhaps he meant this as a play on words?


I don't think it is wise for people to assume that anything is a play on words with ANY German. It seems to me that it would be a big stretch.

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I doubt that


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I agree with him about the orientation of the skull.


Why am I not surprised?

Frankly, I don't think the orientation of the skull is all that critical. Besides, if that is what your audience begins to concentrate on, then you need to work on your performing skills.
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Wow!

I reply to you Mr. Palmer, intending all due respect because I do respect your scholarship and knowledge, and your reply is "I doubt that."

Was that just because I pointed out an error on your part or do you perceive some other offense?

Wow!
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Looks pretty good. I didn't care for the metal on the mouth rim and interior...kind of took away from the feel of the cups for me, a little bit.
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Looks pretty good. I didn't care for the metal on the mouth rim and interior...kind of took away from the feel of the cups for me, a little bit.



The metal rim is there because it's a commercially available cup that they've gimmicked instead of building from scratch. Which also explains why the skull is upside down.

You can find the cup here http://weshop.ph/itm/skull-and-radiant-b......180.html
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Haha, that's funny!
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It may in fact be funny Chessman, but it's a fairly common practice to re-tool existing pieces and gimmick them to become magic props. Viking Magic's George Robinson recently rebuilt a stock item to come up with his incredible Medieval Card Box: https://www.martinsmagic.com/allmagic/ut......king-mfg Both the small and large boxes are beautiful (I know, because I have a plain version of the larger box that I bought online for another effect...the lining is awful...George totally reworked the insides for his version). And Gimpy used a stock treasure chest in his early exploration of the light-heavy concept. It's one of my favorite versions of this effect...works every time. So, Payne is spot on correct as usual, but I see no shame in re-tasking a commercially available prop. Actually, there are probably advantages that could be exploited.

I still don't comprehend why folks don't understand the upside-down/right-side up concept. The skull is perfect as it is. It's a cup. A cup. Fake and proppy or not, it's a cup meant for drinking and it's meant to be sitting up-right, right-side up so you see the skull, and then put liquid in it. The magic comes when you put something else into it that doesn't come out when it's supposed to, or does come out when it shouldn't. Period. It's a frickin' cup. It's not meant to be a magical prop that looks right-side up when it's upside down...I'm sorry, but this is really bugging me that this isn't understood...or maybe I'm not getting it...in which case, please enlighten me.
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