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Sebastian Oudot Regular user Somewhere Between Two Worlds 197 Posts |
Hello Phill,
Thanks for the detailed answer. That's really good to know. Nowadays, too many products, and especially deck of cards are in limited quantities, or a "limited edition buy this now before it's too late!" kind of products. I'm very well placed to know that it's marketing. But too many times, that's just annoying. So it's good to see that you're planning to make the deck available for a long time. And if you want to "make this deck *THE* deck for card magic" and "want this to be people's reliable go-to deck", it's indeed a wise marketing decision to make the decks available as long as possible. |
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Mercury52 Inner circle Kevin Reylek 2239 Posts |
Phill was kind enough to send me an early deck, which just arrived in my mailbox about an hour ago.
These are fabulous. If you liked the earlier Black/Gold deck, you'll love the Rouge. Stock and finish feel terrific, registration is perfect, edges are super smooth. The color is great, and the marks are just as easy to read as the previous deck, if not easier. Great job Phill and DMC, this deck is awesome!
Kevin Reylek
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civins Regular user Scotland 128 Posts |
...and what about the Kings?
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dyoung Special user 898 Posts |
As it stands, this is my favourite marked deck. Just because of ease of use, the distance and speed in which you can read it. And now it's become even better.
Good work! //Dan |
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1794 Posts |
Standard kings. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?
Phill
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LoveKey1988 Elite user 443 Posts |
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On Dec 9, 2016, Mercury52 wrote: I hope its not easier...I don't want laymen to read it ha ha |
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TheDirectionalist Special user I predict that I will have this many posts when you read this: 930 Posts |
Standard kings!!!! YES!!!! My life is complete.
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Hi Phill,
I'm more of a coin guy but do like the cards a bit. I've endeavored some and gotten decent-enough to do a few things, and to develop a healthy respect for card magic and cards themselves. I love the idea of your deck but I'm quite a bit late to the table here, guess I missed your Black/Gold, and now there is this "Rouge" version of them It seems…Are the black/gold still available? I'm a little lost outside the coin magic realm, but where can you get these decks here in the States? I think they are pretty clever and with my eyes not what they used to be, this seems like a good way to go. Plus, my good mate and consummate pro worker over there in the U.K., Sean Goodman said so. -Mb
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"Believe in YOU, and you will see the greatest magic that ever was." -Mb |
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Mercury52 Inner circle Kevin Reylek 2239 Posts |
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On Dec 9, 2016, LoveKey1988 wrote: It's definitely still just as hidden/deceptive/invisible as before - just super great to read once you're tuned into the system and looking for it.
Kevin Reylek
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civins Regular user Scotland 128 Posts |
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On Dec 9, 2016, phillsmiff wrote: Extremely happy. I'll put an order on over the weekend. |
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1794 Posts |
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On Dec 9, 2016, Mb217 wrote: The Black gold sold out totally, we have none left, the Rouge is a serious improvement so that's the one to get. We ship to the US but Penguin will have LOADS of stock very soon so check them out. Phill
The new Elysian Duets, marked cards featuring my unique Optical Marking System:
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Thanks Phill, I'll check them out.
*Check out my latest: Gifts From The Old Country: A Mini-Magic Book, MBs Mini-Lecture on Coin Magic, The MB Tanspo PLUS, MB's Morgan, Copper Silver INC, Double Trouble, FlySki, Crimp Change - REDUX!, and other fine magic at gumroad.com/mb217magic
"Believe in YOU, and you will see the greatest magic that ever was." -Mb |
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1794 Posts |
Lots of interest in the preorders, I think most of them are previous users that are like "OMG finally".
Quite a few users have commented that they have limited vision and the like the deck because the features that make it readable to a user with good vision at 6ft makes it readable at normal range to someone with poor vision, I posted this up on fb as a test and people could still identify the cards. https://i.imgur.com/UL1uEmRl.jpg
The new Elysian Duets, marked cards featuring my unique Optical Marking System:
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taller8 Inner circle Olympia, Washington 1087 Posts |
Any eta when penguin will be getting them?
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amirb401 Regular user 146 Posts |
Just ordered mine aswell! The rogue set looks awesome, I cant wait to receive mine!
Do they come with instructions ? I kind of managed to get the marking but still abit hard for me to identify .. just wondering Also, the right card is the 6 of spades right phil? |
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LoveKey1988 Elite user 443 Posts |
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On Dec 11, 2016, amirb401 wrote: Yes it is |
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1794 Posts |
The deck comes with a single card explaining the marking system pictorially, it's a slight update of the precious system but only in small places.
Phill
The new Elysian Duets, marked cards featuring my unique Optical Marking System:
-+: https://phillsmithcreative.com/products/elysian-duets :+- |
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pancho247 Regular user 184 Posts |
Apologies if the info is elsewhere in the thread but what are the differences between the black and gold vs rouge?
Colour obviously, card stock, anything else? I ordered 3 sets a couple of days ago |
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TheDirectionalist Special user I predict that I will have this many posts when you read this: 930 Posts |
Checking Penguin daily..
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1794 Posts |
The differences are: all standard court cards, the marking system is refined with a better 10 (special thanks to Fraser Parker for permission to include this), better 4, better H, special semi-secret extra allowing easy reading from a spread, better lots of bits although all minor, we've got 2 jokers again, with a card reveal, there's an instruction card packed into the deck, and that's about it. If you want to know about the design forces that have shaped the deck, this is visible in microcosm in this thread - people who used previous iterations of the deck and loved it but wanted x, y or z change to make it perfect. We've incorporated as many of these as possible, suggestions from here, from talking to people face to face at magic events, chatting with working pros on FB and from our research gathering information on our site.
Phill
The new Elysian Duets, marked cards featuring my unique Optical Marking System:
-+: https://phillsmithcreative.com/products/elysian-duets :+- |
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