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Presentation-wise, Ricky Jay beats them all.
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Never seen his presentation Pete. What is his about?
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My favorite is Eugene Burger's Brahma Vishnu Shiva.
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Also Mr Burger says that "the figure 8 setup is the worst setup of all". He also says that "it will invariably lead to tangling".
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I cannot agree , regarding the tangling due to a figure 8 set up.
I learned this ages ago in a Lewis Hanson manuscript "Unconventional Magic" (?) and it is my preferred winding method.
I have used it since 1990 with as many as 6 shows per day... and it has tangled on me fewer than a dozen times during that entire interval.
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I've only ever done Gypsy Floss. When I wind the thread, it goes around my middle finger about 10 times. Loops come off and gets pinched flat. Long bundle gets folded in half, wrapped twice in the middle, folded in half again, wrapped three times around and then smushed into a little ball.

I don't know if that is a figure eight setup, but I've never had a tangle using the above described method.
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On Feb 4, 2018, Pete Biro wrote:
Presentation-wise, Ricky Jay beats them all.


YES!!! Jay Marshall, and, I caught Ricky in a "blue jeans nite club" in Chicago in the'70s. He did two 45 minute sets, and, his Gypsy; Thread, was delightful!
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I have to throw out a vote for Lonnie Chevrie's routine as well. I believe he calls it "Waxed" now but the Gypsy Floss is the only version I've ever done. Super easy, fooling, self contained and convenient. It can even be a practical everyday carry magic item because then you could also floss after every meal!
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Lewis Ganson. Not Lewis Hanson.
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If memory serves, Gypsy Floss is what Tom Jones called it. I learned the routine from him at NEMCON years ago. If I remember correctly, he and Lonnie Chevrie independently created the gypsy thread routine using floss concurrently. I believe they talked and were satisfied that both had a similar bout of inspiration at around the same time and so they agreed that both would use it and sell it as they wished.

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On Feb 8, 2018, langston3711 wrote:
I have to throw out a vote for Lonnie Chevrie's routine as well. I believe he calls it "Waxed" now but the Gypsy Floss is the only version I've ever done. Super easy, fooling, self contained and convenient. It can even be a practical everyday carry magic item because then you could also floss after every meal!
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Kallix, yes, what you are doing is the figure 8 set up. I see that you are from Connecticut.... I will be doing my Gypsy Thread routine this year at NEMCON. If you are there, I think you will enjoy the presentation.
It is unlike any version extant. I look forward to meeting you !
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I see that you are lecturing at NEMCON, in addition to performing. I look forward to seeing your routine. Hopefully it is one of the effects you plan on teaching as well. In either case, I will be at NEMCON and I look forward to meeting you too.

Oh, and thanks for the clarification on the figure eight setup. I didn't know that was what I was actually doing.

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On Feb 12, 2018, JNeal wrote:
Kallix, yes, what you are doing is the figure 8 set up. I see that you are from Connecticut.... I will be doing my Gypsy Thread routine this year at NEMCON. If you are there, I think you will enjoy the presentation.
It is unlike any version extant. I look forward to meeting you !
Regards,
Jonathan Neal
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Kallix,, I don't plan on teaching my routine as the presentation is unique to me and would not fit another performer very well. But we will certainly have a chance to chat!
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Is there a recommended floss brand? I decided to resurrect this for myself recently and got some waxed floss which was hardly waxed at all....wouldn't hold in a ball.

What brand do you floss fans use?
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I've always used REACH Unflavored Waxed Dental Floss. It's the brand I noticed Lonnie Chevrie was using in his Penguin Lecture.
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I have always used Johnson and Johnson's mint waxed dental floss and it works great for me. I believe that was the brand Tom Jones recommended.
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From the exposes in this thread I can now construct and perform Gypsy Floss. Thank you.
"I think it's clear that if we move people emotionally and have them experience our show on a visceral level they will have been entertained." Me

"When I was young I thought I was clever and could change the world. But now I am wise and instead changed MYSELF." Sudo Nimh
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