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I just happened to see that Penn and Teller's Fool Us, season 2, starts tonight at 8:00 (Eastern) on CW.
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You can read my review of the first episode of their new season here:

http://jackshalom.net/2015/07/07/fool-us-penn-and-teller/
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I might be biased but this season looks promising! The acts on Ep.1 were phenomenal, super entertaining and have a great variety.
Looking forward to the rest of this season!
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I would watch those two get on an elevator and be entertained. I did not get to see as much of the first run as I would have liked but I enjoyed the dynamic.

The part I really enjoy is how Penn treats people. Writes down methods so as not to expose them and like how he treated Gazo worry such respect.

They are carving out a nice niche for themselves.
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I enjoyed the premier as much as I enjoyed the first season in the UK (which was quite a bit). One of the things I like is that this isn't an ordinary talent-show sort of program -- they bring in some first rate magicians. And the "competition" part is a gimmick, really, because many of the magicians are there to get exposure that they might not otherwise get, and they have no interest in fooling Penn & Teller. When Gazzo was on in season 1, he obviously did not think he was going to fool Penn & Teller with the Cups and Balls. And last night, Jon Armstrong performed Tiny Plunger, which is a marketed effect that has been available for a couple of years. Did he mean to fool them? Doubtful -- he was showing off a fantastic routine.

They're usually pretty good about speaking in code so as not to tip off methods, and I thought Penn did a good job of this with Tiny Plunger. He may have been a little careless with Xavier -- he gave out an easily Googleable term that Jonathan Ross then repeated.

They should record a new opening -- the one they used looked to be from the original series, 105-pounds-of-Penn ago!
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I wonder if this has become a platform for people to just promote themselves and/or things they sell. I liked the show (and really like my Tiny Plunger, think it's a great effect), but there was about a 0% chance any of the first three acts would fool them.
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I think it's a platform for people to promote themselves ... or, to put it another way, for Penn and Teller to promote acts they want people to see. I think that's a good thing. To promote products? I don't recall many magicians appearing with marketed products; Tiny Plunger, sure; Jon Allen's Pain Game, which I think was on the market before Fool Us; Archer started selling Blank Night after appearing on the show, but he was genuinely trying to fool them (and succeeded). But most aren't selling products, and I suspect P&T would avoid having their show become an hour-long commercial.
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From talking to the producers of the show.... They view the show more as an oppurtunity for Great Magic to be on TV. The "Fooling" part is so that TV people will BITE on the show. A magic competition where the tricks will be revelaed sounds pretty interesting. From my understand if they get fooled its just and added bonus... The producers were extremly Heavy on the don't worry about the fooling part..... Just perform great magic.

After talking with Garrett Thomas about the show.. He said while its a great platform.... but the show is still called "Fool Us" He talked me into bringing everything I had to the table and trying to FRY the heck out of them.. Initially I was just going to perform my best overall routine.
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On Jul 7, 2015, sjbrundage wrote:
From talking to the producers of the show.... They view the show more as an oppurtunity for Great Magic to be on TV. The "Fooling" part is so that TV people will BITE on the show. A magic competition where the tricks will be revelaed sounds pretty interesting. From my understand if they get fooled its just and added bonus... The producers were extremly Heavy on the don't worry about the fooling part..... Just perform great magic.
That's the impression I've always had. I remember John Archer talking about it, and the producers were trying to get him to perform one of his other effects (he himself has said Blank Night isn't his strongest), but he actually wanted to fool them so he went with the one trick he knew was his own method.

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After talking with Garrett Thomas about the show.. He said while its a great platform.... the show is still called "Fool Us" He talked me into bringing everything I had to the table and trying to FRY the heck out of them.. Initially I was just going to perform my best overall routine.



Well, it was a great routine AND it fooled them! Two for two. They didn't even waste any time about it (unless their "discussion" was edited out). Great work, and congrats. Has your appearance as their opening act been scheduled yet?
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Congratulations Steven Brundage . Well done (it FOOLED me , too . Loved what you did !)
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Congratulations Steven Brundage . Well done (it FOOLED me , too . Loved what you did !)

+1. Really enjoyed your performance. Thanks!
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On Jul 7, 2015, Magicbarry wrote:
I think it's a platform for people to promote themselves ... or, to put it another way, for Penn and Teller to promote acts they want people to see. I think that's a good thing. To promote products? I don't recall many magicians appearing with marketed products; Tiny Plunger, sure; Jon Allen's Pain Game, which I think was on the market before Fool Us; Archer started selling Blank Night after appearing on the show, but he was genuinely trying to fool them (and succeeded). But most aren't selling products, and I suspect P&T would avoid having their show become an hour-long commercial.


Given their libertarian / Ayn Rand silliness, I do not they would mind an hour long commercial at all.... as long as people gotpaid. And I say this though I love P and T, despite hating their college-dorm politics.

Good first episode.

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From talking to the producers of the show.... They view the show more as an oppurtunity for Great Magic to be on TV. The "Fooling" part is so that TV people will BITE on the show. A magic competition where the tricks will be revelaed sounds pretty interesting. From my understand if they get fooled its just and added bonus... The producers were extremly Heavy on the don't worry about the fooling part..... Just perform great magic.

After talking with Garrett Thomas about the show.. He said while its a great platform.... but the show is still called "Fool Us" He talked me into bringing everything I had to the table and trying to FRY the heck out of them.. Initially I was just going to perform my best overall routine.


Yeah, I was expectig Doug Henning. And I got a miracle. My girlfriend ad I were stunned. In the other acts I was way ahead. "Ok, he is using ONE-AHEAD plus a force, plus disappearing inc.. etc)

I could follow most of the plunger guy, but some parts stumped me... but I could tell Penn was talking in code.

The pantomine guys was lovely. But he obviously would not fool them. But I loved him too.

Really only SHOCKER bored me, and was not deceptive at all

But you were blatantly poetic with that rubric cube.
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On Jul 7, 2015, sjbrundage wrote:
From talking to the producers of the show.... They view the show more as an oppurtunity for Great Magic to be on TV. The "Fooling" part is so that TV people will BITE on the show. A magic competition where the tricks will be revelaed sounds pretty interesting. From my understand if they get fooled its just and added bonus... The producers were extremly Heavy on the don't worry about the fooling part..... Just perform great magic.

After talking with Garrett Thomas about the show.. He said while its a great platform.... but the show is still called "Fool Us" He talked me into bringing everything I had to the table and trying to FRY the heck out of them.. Initially I was just going to perform my best overall routine.


Yeah, I was expectig Doug Henning. And I got a miracle. My girlfriend ad I were stunned. In the other acts I was way ahead. "Ok, he is using ONE-AHEAD plus a force, plus disappearing inc.. etc)

I could follow most of the plunger guy, but some parts stumped me... but I could tell Penn was talking in code.

The pantomine guys was lovely. But he obviously would not fool them. But I loved him too.

Really only SHOCKER bored me, and was not deceptive at all

But you were blatantly poetic with that rubric cube.


THank you for the very kind words. That routine has been in the works for quite a few years. Looks completly different 3 years ago than it does today.
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I might be biased but this season looks promising! The acts on Ep.1 were phenomenal, super entertaining and have a great variety.
Looking forward to the rest of this season!



Nash, when are you going to be on? (I'm assuming that is why you are biased)
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Is it just me, or did Penn seem a little at being fooled by Leon & Romy's card trick? After being told Romy walking across the stage had nothing to do with it, he immediately launched into a very detailed description of the potential method, which is atypical, given that he normally speaks in code.

During season 1 there were accusations that one of the acts had purposely faked a sleight to throw P&T off. Perhaps he felt they'd been burned by a similar deception? (Granted, it's tougher to accuse the act of that sort of thing this time around; the season 1 incident looked more suspicious.)
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He seemed a tad annoyed.
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I was more surprised by the first episode of the new season when Penn claimed that he was fooled by Tiny Plunger and that the only reason Jon Armstrong didn't fool them was that Penn happened to team up with Teller about 40 years ago. As was pointed out in an earlier post in the thread by Magicbarry, it's a marketed effect that's been around for two years. Am I the only one here finding it hard to believe Penn didn't know the trick?
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Perhaps Penn just wanted to give Jon high praise for a good presentation. I see a lot of magic, but that was the first time I've ever seen Tiny Plunger performed. I've read about it. I've seen the reviews, but I hadn't seen it performed before then. The second time was last Monday evening when Master Payne performed it at a show in Seattle.
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Good show - good first episode!
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