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RNK Inner circle 7527 Posts 
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Wow. And anybody with half a brain woild understand there's nothing "game changing" about cutting a piece of paper.
I do many paid gigs and have 100% success rate with my pads and I simply use scissors.
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts
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Good! but why take so much offense/umbrage over someone else offering an alternative?
i can make my own sw**i with clay and a toothpick, doesn't mean others can't 3D print something else and offer them... if you are annoyed or perplexed by the phrase "game changing" - I understand your point completely... that phrase is probably a bit OTT...but hey, there's far bigger terminology used in the selling of an item than that in my view... and there's level of finesse and quality that different people feel comfortable with... i'm sure a old Mini is just fine to drive, but if you just happen to prefer to drive a Jaguar, then you are allowed to choose to between the two if your budget allows it... you are coming across as a little irked by this...and again, I am with you on the phrase "game changer", probably "precision cut" or "professionally made" would have done...but overall, at least this is being fair in its crediting and openess as to what you are getting...
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toberman Loyal user 223 Posts
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Just to get this thread back on track, I received my pads the other day. They are far better than anything I would have made myself and I am happy with my purchase. I ordered the smaller pads and I am considering the large size too.
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JanForster Inner circle Germany ... when not traveling... 4192 Posts
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That's the point, I had them in my hands and there are of course extremely well done. Point. It is a tool, get it or leave it. Certainly you can make them yourself, but they wouldn't be as good as the offered ones. You simply decide whether you would like to spend the time making them and accept a lower quality or to buy them. Your decision concerning a mere tool.
Doing arts and crafts can be very time consuming, time you could use to do better or more important things. I know by experience about what I am talking. Occasionally I spend also too much time creating certain things, but that's my personal decision in order to get something nobody else has... I made up for myself e. g. a German version of the B.I.P., it was very time consuming, working on a PC and by hand. So I am happy if I can get certain things already done and spend only time individually finishing a tool. Jan
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10798 Posts
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On Nov 22, 2015, videoman wrote: You made my day! That means a lot. I know I'm on solid ground when Bob, Jeff, Oz, Craig,Sven (who I named my pads after!), Ross, Eugene, Jheff; Ran and many many others have told me they are happy campers and will use these professionally. All orders received will ship this week priority mail to the USA and first class overseas as long as I have stock on hand. I've already reordered with my supplier with more to arrive in a week but I still have a pretty good supply on hand. Happy Thanksgiving 
Creator of The SvenPad Supreme(R) line of aerospace level quality, made in the USA utility props. https://svenpads.com/
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RNK Inner circle 7527 Posts
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On Nov 22, 2015, IAIN wrote: WelL stated Ian. I do agree with your points. And the ad is definitely OTT. My opinion has nothing to do with the maker. I would have the comments to whoever would be making these. But there are other items that get re-released and the creators get lamb basted for it. In magic there is no standard. The standard is who you know and who you are chummy with allows one to get away with it. Its becoming laughable. But in response to your quality remarks, I still disagree. These pads are so simple to make and even if your off a little its never noticed by the spectator and the pad still works the same. I guess if you don't have the time to make your own these would be good.
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts
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Again though, that is your quality control - and it works for you which is great... no one is saying you are wrong or incorrect... this is just another option, that would (if we were compare side by side) a hand made version vs a pro-made, lasery "thing", then there would be a difference!
i mean, why buy business cards when you can buy some sheets of card and cut them out yourself?! why pay for online printed business cards because you can teach yourself photoshop, buy a good quality card stock and printer? its just about the levels in which we feel most comfortable - and its a mixture of time, energy, quality levels and a few other bits and pieces thrown in... the line of logic goes on and on - why buy a g*mm*cked w*llet when you can buy a scalpel? everyone has a choice...and choices are great... if they weren't, we wouldn't have equiv*q*e!
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1855 Posts
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Well said IAIN! And then there are those who will make their own and also buy the professionaly made item because of their enjoyment of the method, trying new things, having different types on hand and coming up with ideas not thought of before and maybe even arriving to a revelation that does become a game changer.
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LukeBrady New user 78 Posts
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On Nov 22, 2015, RNK wrote: Depends on your idea of a game changer. IT for example. I can easily buy L**ps but I found a way to make them while I watch TV. In a 1 hour show I have enough for at least 6 months. Saves me a TON of money and an hassle of ordering them. With no difference to a spectator, that to me, is a game changer! If you can save time and resources buy getting a device you use. It's a game changer. Look at a marked deck. You could spend an hour or two marking a deck... or simply buy one. When people share resources that is helping the industry not hurting it. |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12967 Posts
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Good lord😨
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Justin Lewis Special user 981 Posts
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The Svenpads are incredible! Brett has made something very beautiful here. I've attempted to sit down and make these pads in the past and what I made was hardly worth handing out to a spectator. Its flawless! I ordered the combo set which I highly recommend. Completely ordinary looking pads! Great job Brett! The price is perfect for what you receive. I most likely will be buying a few more pads within the next month or so.
“The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it.”- Anonymous
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cheesewrestler Inner circle Chicago 1157 Posts
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why buy business cards when you can buy some sheets of card and cut them out yourself? There is quite a difference between a business card, which is meant to be kept and referred to by the person who receives it, and a scrap of paper that is meant to be crumpled up and forgotten. |
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mtgoldstein Veteran user Houston, TX 325 Posts
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The SvenPads are indeed incredible. Rarely have I held a product of such professional quality. You can't appreciate it without actually holding it in your hands. I was not particularly excited about it before I actually had an opportunity to see one. I figured so what, I've made plenty of things like this myself, they work well. Heck even my Bulldog deck works fine. And in fact they do, but from the moment I played with one I was disturbed at how incredible it was. It just didn't seem like it should work it looked so commercially normal. Having said that I just cannot or chose not to return to my old ways. The talk on the thread is odd. If you are happy with your DIY that's great. I'm glad I know how and can at anytime make a facsimile if I need to. Perhaps I'm the only one that will notice, but I choose to present a more professional quality product if I can. It sort of makes my old stuff look like The Magic Coloring Book. It's a great trick and it looks like one, but there are other magazine style effects where the magazines looks like completely normal professional products. It's the same with this. I am grateful to Brett Barry for going to the trouble to develop these and share them with the community. It is a truly outstanding Utility Product.
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dooblehorn Inner circle Pittsburg, CA 2481 Posts
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I was really excited to see this, I currently have a need for just such a device...I'll probably buy, but was really disappointed in the price, it's really kind of expensive for what you get. IMO, should be priced around 1/2 of current cost...I'm sure now will come all the justifications for cost, but really...
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Justin Lewis Special user 981 Posts
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On Nov 22, 2015, mtgoldstein wrote: ^ agreed!! I first encountered Brett's SvenPad at mindvention! Once a performers has them In their hand a large smile appears!
“The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it.”- Anonymous
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John T. Sheets Inner circle Las Vegas, USA 1105 Posts
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Congratulations to Brett on his new release!
I'm really looking forward to using these amazing utility pads, and my brains already racing with some incredible ideas for these! I'm also happy to know that they'll save considerable time from having to make them myself, not to mention that they're made with absolute precision. Thanks Brett for making these available to the working pro!
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts
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You hit the nail on the head John. Whilst slightly overpriced for the casual hobbyist performer such as myself, these will be an extremely, very welcome, addition to working performers worldwide. In fact I'd probably order a box full.
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sbays Inner circle Burbank, CA 1065 Posts
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Can you make sven pads yourself? Sure. Will they work? Sure. Are these game changing? Not in terms of the method or routines etc. But for me, they are game changing in regards to me not having to sit down and cut my own. Which I have done a bunch of times. But now something comes along that is a very nice tool that is cut with precision that you simply will not get by freehand. Does that mean they will "work" better? Maybe not. But I do think they look better and more importantly, save me a lot of time prepping my own. You get two pads for 50 bucks. That's 25 bucks per pad. I would pay that over and over again to not have to endure the monotonous task of cutting my own.
So what you are getting is quality, consistency, and time saved. It's up to you to determine if you find value in that or not. I sure do.
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Fire Starter Inner circle 4810 Posts
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God, I think it is a nightmare trying to make your own,well it is for me,i am quite happy to pay for someone to make a great job of one,great stuff Brett.
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RNK Inner circle 7527 Posts
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On Nov 23, 2015, Fire Starter wrote: Really? wow. I am not an arts and crafts guy by no means but I find these very simple to make. But I can see how some would rather buy them.
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