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Scott Alexander V.I.P. 1471 Posts |
It is nice to be able to be carefree when performing a routine like this. It is just as freeing as wearing no underwear!
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joe faro Regular user Salida Colorado 154 Posts |
How many people have bought Nailed It and are unhappy ? I waited a long time before spending this much for a trick, and thought it would be worth it. The description says that the "Spike is examined and proven real by the audience", the only thing that could be examined is the wood blocks. Everything else ,including the smashed bags and the apple can't be examined.
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Mysterious Mike Loyal user Chicago 258 Posts |
What you recieve may seen underwhelming. But during the routine you do "prove" the spike is real. No one cares to examine anything at the end. Give it a performance, I'm sure you'll love it.
The performance is what really makes it all worth while.
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MadisonH Inner circle 1752 Posts |
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On Jan 5, 2017, joe faro wrote: There are so many provers in the routine. You shouldn't worry about it. The audience hears the metal bang against wood, someone feels the spike and confirms it is sharp, and then at the end it goes right through the Apple with ease. I promise... everyone knows that spike is real. Also, there's no need for anything to be examined more than it is. Why would you hand out the apple for examination? Why would you hand out empty bags or wooden blocks out for examination? There's no need for all of that over proving. If you feel so inclined, Scott teaches a method to nail the spike into a board and give it as a souvenir. I think it's perfect as is though. |
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joe faro Regular user Salida Colorado 154 Posts |
I'm unhappy that the description for the trick says that " Spike is examined and proven real by the audience". There can be no examination, only a person feeling the point while you hold the block and spike. Just feeling the point is a lot different than examining the spike.
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sgtgrey Special user Austin, TX 839 Posts |
I can't say I've been unhappy with this - quite the opposite! I agree 100% with Madison on this - technically, it can be examined (at the end, as he notes), but I do think the routine is pretty much perfect as is - any more examination to my mind is over-proving and/or inviting challenge - the opposite of what you want in a routine or show. Let's just say that people buy it as real so strongly that I had to expose it to my wife in order for her to allow me to continue performing it because she was concerned for my safety, even after I assured her it was 100% safe.
From my experience, the most commonly thought of "solution" from my lay audiences (and from youtube comments I've seen on videos of nail roulette performed on TV) is that the nail is m*gnetically attached to the block and you know where it is. So I take extra care to ensure both of these lines of thinking are debunked when performing this routine. |
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MadisonH Inner circle 1752 Posts |
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On Jan 5, 2017, joe faro wrote: I don't think you should be unhappy at all. As a matter of fact, the way the spike is "examined" throughout the routine from beginning to end makes it seem like it's real. Heck, as the spectator touches the spike I even say, "That's not a fake spike is it? It's not like made of foam or something? No it's a real metal spike. And it's actually sharp isn't it?" I promise they will say all of those things are true. It is very convincing indeed. |
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magicnick13 New user 27 Posts |
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On Jan 5, 2017, joe faro wrote: If you are interested in this routine, don't let comments like this stop you from getting it. Nailed It, in my opinion, is a near perfect method. I've performed it for the past year and its completely safe, and extremely convincing. |
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On The Offbeat Loyal user 287 Posts |
This is so weird that this thread would resurrect itself today because I purchased this effect off another Café member earlier this week and happened to receive it just this afternoon. I was excited to watch the DVD so I immediately popped it in.
I can honestly say that I love Scott's method and routine. I never thought I would perform a smash & stab because I just felt it wasn't worth it when there are so many other fantastic effects to choose from. Then I happened to watch a Saturn Magic review show and although it wasn't one of the effects featured on the episode they did happen to mention Nailed It and raved about it but most importantly how fool proof it was, so that got my interest. So I looked up Scott's performance of it and I'm not ashamed to admit that it fooled me badly. I was totally convinced that everything was real and on the up and up. Lots of provers in the routine as others have said. Upon learning the method I was very excited to perform it and I am extremely HAPPY with my purchase. I don't have any other type of effect in my repertoire that can create this type of suspense and emotional reaction with an audience. Joe Faro, you didn't give an indication as to how long you've been performing magic but if you're a relative newcomer then I can see how you might be expecting to receive some James Bond like marvel of a gimmick that could be closely examined and then become as limp as a wet noodle upon your command. But more experienced performers would realize that there are enough convincers that any audience is going to totally believe that you're using a genuine spike, and it can be given away at the end if you so desire so I feel that it does live up to the ad copy. But what I'm confused by is that you said you waited a long time before spending this much money on a trick so I would imagine you must have done considerable research and watched a demo of it, and so I can only surmise that it must have fooled you. And if not, then you likely had somewhat of an idea of what you were essentially getting. So I'm surprised that you are unhappy with it. Bottom line for me is that this about as close to a perfect method for a smash & stab spike routine that I could hope for. |
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GusGarcia New user 68 Posts |
I've never considered doing this routine, until now. This looks exceptionally clean. Great release Scott!
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makulit974 Loyal user 259 Posts |
I have been performing this for about 6 months and I am extremely happy with it. So is my audience. I have received all kind of reactions with it. At a show, one guy nearly fainted. The suspens was too much to bear he told me after the show. To him, it was one of the highlights.
I have performed this recently on a stage that was a bit far from the audience. So instead of having someone touch the spike at the beginning I used a balloon. I just blew it up and it exploded as soon as it got in contact with the spike. It was effective, maybe not as much as having the spectator touch it but it did suit the venue. Now I have a general question. I have a family show planned for a soccer club. There will be all ages presen, kids with parents. Would you do such a trick with this type of audience? I was thinking of talking about sport adrenaline and show how I get my very own adrenaline rush. What are your thoughts about this routine and the younger audience? In my opinion it is not adapted but I would love to hear your views. |
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Saturn UK Inner circle 2658 Posts |
No don't do it with kids around.
For family shows and rebookings I use Steve Prices Omlette Roulette which is brilliant.
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sgtgrey Special user Austin, TX 839 Posts |
Interesting idea with the balloon. Makes for a nice convincer when you can't reach someone on a larger stage very easily. I suppose the alternative would be to bring someone up on stage with you...
I was going to mention one of the egg roulette routines as a great option for kids. Steve Price's is very good, but there are a variety of these you could do. I also quite like the White Russian Roulette idea from Scott Alexander's most recent Penguin Live lecture where the phone is at risk as another possible idea (although perhaps you call it "Milk" instead of an alcoholic beverage). Basically - any of the Russian roulette routines where the thing at risk is either an inanimate object or won't cause real harm to you or someone else. |
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makulit974 Loyal user 259 Posts |
Thank you both. You are right; It seemed logical after I asked
I will look into the Omelette routine. Scott's white russian routine is indeed a good alternative. As for the balloon, I did think of bringing someone up on the stage but the balloon had a very nice visual and dramatic appeal. I just stress to them that it could be my hand and I could see people's face change at that point. |
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
I think the balloon is a great idea whether you use a specs hand or not.
The pop would definitely get people's attention. It could also be used at the end just before the apple. Don't want to get into over proving but gives me some ideas to ponder. Thanks! |
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joe faro Regular user Salida Colorado 154 Posts |
I'm glad that so many are happy with this trick. I'm also surprised that no one want's to make negative comments on the method. Scott must have a lot of friends and influence in the magic community, (good for him). This method just isn't going to work for me. Luckily I bought it from a company that will allow me to return it for credit, it pays to do business with a reputable company.
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On The Offbeat Loyal user 287 Posts |
So that's what you got out of this discussion?
Your conclusion is that it must all just be a big conspiracy from fanboys of Scott? Really??? Or maybe we're all being completely honest and truly believe it to be a great method. Well, I sincerely hope that you don't end up in the ER one day with a metal spike in your hand just to be able to get whatever additional convincers you feel you need for this trick. |
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MadisonH Inner circle 1752 Posts |
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On Jan 6, 2017, joe faro wrote: Spoken like a true member of the magiccafe. You asked a question. You got many replies from satisfied customers. If you just came expecting everyone to say how awful this trick is, I'm sorry you're disappointed. If you don't like the trick because it doesn't meet your requirements, that's fine. But most of the owners of this love it. |
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Mysterious Mike Loyal user Chicago 258 Posts |
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On Jan 6, 2017, joe faro wrote: Wow. Joe, I don't know Scott Alexander at all. I only speak from experience of actually performing the effect. This is considered the best spike effect out there; why not give it a try?
The performance is what really makes it all worth while.
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Jon Allen V.I.P. England 1771 Posts |
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On Jan 7, 2017, Mysterious Mike wrote: Not by everyone...
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