The Magic Café
Username:
Password:
[ Lost Password ]
  [ Forgot Username ]
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » New to magic? » » Buying Magic (A how-to Guide) (33 Likes) Printer Friendly Version

 Go to page [Previous]  1~2~3~4~5~6
MudMedic
View Profile
New user
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
25 Posts

Profile of MudMedic
I bought a thumb tip many years ago, along with a vernet egg and a set of cups and balls. That's about it for prop items... mostly I try to bankrupt myself buying up all the books I can find and am hopelessly addicted to decks of cards (not gimmicked ones, just all those nice decks that are out there).

I do confess to looking longingly at a zombie and a passe-passe set, but can live without (I think).
Tap Roniart
View Profile
New user
39 Posts

Profile of Tap Roniart
Fred Kaps said that effect (results) was everything, method an afterthought.

What say you?
Tap Roniart

# PM me your effects looking for a method!
# Please excuse any spelling or grammatical errors-especially ideas that end up being awful-as I am on cell.
# Mods: I only break site rules that the "inner circle" themselves break.
skilldini
View Profile
New user
39 Posts

Profile of skilldini
I have a trick lock that unlocks behind the back? how does it work?
docguitarman
View Profile
New user
Thousand Oaks, California
84 Posts

Profile of docguitarman
Quote:
On Nov 10, 2016, Hakaput wrote:
Where are some good places to buy magic resources online?
I am primarily interesting in finding books, the classics and must haves. In my area there does not seem to be any real magic shops to which I can go.
So what are some reliable and trustworthy websites I can go to?


I'm a returning hobbyist. I've bought several props on eBay. I just noticed that the magic trick store is one of the Café advertisers. If you use the coupon code "Café" at check out you get an additional discount. I haven't ordered yet, but plan to do so.

As for classic books (Dover editions,for example) try abebooks .. lots of inexpensive magic books there.
PaulPosition
View Profile
New user
6 Posts

Profile of PaulPosition
Okay, so here I am, complete beginner, with a question about "buying magic" vs. the "Magician's secret"...

Picture this scenario: I'm looking at a neat card trick, sold - as far as I understand - with a gimmick, and it *seems* to me the card selection is actually forced. Can I respectfully ask the guy at the shop whether the trick relies on a force? More important: I buy the trick, it is a force, and I'd want to buy a second or third gimmick with different forced card but, hey, "no opening boxes". What gives? It becomes like playing Collectible Cards (Magic:The Gathering, Pokemons)?

(I've decided I'd be more wise with my purchases. First two items I bought (except for Wilson's Complete Course and the Royal Road book) were cheap house-made ones from my local magic shop, which both rely on a 1-to-6 force of number 3 (o-n-e, t-w-o, three, four, f-i-v-e, s-i-x) and it doesn't work good in french because "o-n-e" becomes "u-n" and I wouldn't know where to go from there ("Okay you say "un", now feminine of that is "une" let me spell that out "u-n-e" ah! here's your card")... Meh... )
Aus
View Profile
Special user
Australia
890 Posts

Profile of Aus
Quote:
On Nov 22, 2017, PaulPosition wrote:
Okay, so here I am, complete beginner, with a question about "buying magic" vs. the "Magician's secret"...

Picture this scenario: I'm looking at a neat card trick, sold - as far as I understand - with a gimmick, and it *seems* to me the card selection is actually forced. Can I respectfully ask the guy at the shop whether the trick relies on a force? More important: I buy the trick, it is a force, and I'd want to buy a second or third gimmick with different forced card but, hey, "no opening boxes". What gives? It becomes like playing Collectible Cards (Magic:The Gathering, Pokemons)?

(I've decided I'd be more wise with my purchases. First two items I bought (except for Wilson's Complete Course and the Royal Road book) were cheap house-made ones from my local magic shop, which both rely on a 1-to-6 force of number 3 (o-n-e, t-w-o, three, four, f-i-v-e, s-i-x) and it doesn't work good in french because "o-n-e" becomes "u-n" and I wouldn't know where to go from there ("Okay you say "un", now feminine that is "une" let me spell that out "u-n-e" ah! here's your card")... Meh... )


Unfortunately with how some tricks are marketed it is sometimes luck of the draw as to if you are going to get another trick with the same or indifferent force card, but that sometimes has a lot more to do with the manufacture and the creator and if they perceive that choice to be relevant to their product.

Asking about general terms like forcing and if the trick uses one without going into details of the force is generally considered ok from my experience with magic dealers. If you have preconceived concerns about the limiting nature of the force or any other influencing factors then you need to formulate the relevant questions needed to appease those concerns.

Dealers will be more than happy to help you up to a certain point, but a large part of it is you asking the right questions and using a certain amount of deductive thinking. Let's say you're looking for a gimmicked coin that you can use with a raven and the shop owner has two coins labelled "Magnet Coin" and "Magnetic Coin". Which one do you need? What do you ask the dealer?

If you don't know the difference then you need to "RESEARCH" what you want before you go into the magic shop. A lot of information can be gleaned from reading between the lines on what people say, the effect description, the marketing of the trick partnered with a strong foundation of fundamental principles in magic. That's why you shouldn't neglect the study of classic texts like the ones you previously mentioned.

It is a very difficult thing in magic to invent something 100% original without any influence of something else. With our history reportedly going back as far as 2700 BC in ancient Egypt its safe to say that our forebears have invented just about everything there is to invent in the full sense of the word.

All we have done in the subsequent decades has been refining, adding, modifying and substituting things in varying lengths and degrees.

Magically

Aus
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » New to magic? » » Buying Magic (A how-to Guide) (33 Likes)
 Go to page [Previous]  1~2~3~4~5~6
[ Top of Page ]
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2017 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved.
This page was created in 0.11 seconds requiring 5 database queries.
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café
are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic.
> Privacy Statement <

ROTFL Billions and billions served! ROTFL