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WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts |
Again, I have not once said that your collective experience is not valuable, nor that you are not each personally knowledgeable.
What I am commenting on is the delivery of the information, nothing more. And yes, I am speaking from opinion which is born from my experiences here. Because repeatedly I have watched perfectly valid threads get squashed and suffocated while a few very vocal members take turns expressing how valid their opinion is based on their vast experience. The thing is this: Yes, your experience is valuable and your knowledge is as well. I wish you continued success in your careers. I will say this though - the knowledge and experience you have gained over the years is not incredibly unique. Hypnosis has been around a very long time and some very smart people have studied it. The half dozen or so people I have seriously studied have all be very polite and respectful when I've interacted with them, and they are a pleasure to watch on video lessons (Yes - I admit it - I have not had personal training yet. I'm saving up to go to Toronto next year). That is not the case with coming here. ("Why do you keep coming back then?" is usually what's asked next) - I come here because I am hoping to find more resources to learn. Whether you consider my experience to be worthless or not, I am passionate about this subject and I spend most of my time studying various aspects of hypnosis to improve my skills and knowledge. So, I genuinely wish you continued success and happy lives. And the vitriolic attitudes here will continue to motivate me not to invest much time in the big green monster.
Christopher
Witch Doctor Psycho Seance book: https://tinyurl.com/y873bbr4 Boffo eBook: https://tinyurl.com/387sxkcd |
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10586 Posts |
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On Mar 7, 2016, WitchDocChris wrote: But who are you to expect how others choose to deliver the information they are offering for free? That is just the lack of respect I refer to. You should be appreciative that members (longtime experienced working professionals) are taking the time to respond to your questions, regardless if you like the information offered, tone or packaging. So the insight and information isn't good enough, now you EXPECT it to be delivered a certain way? Or you then just take you ball and go home? Who would want to be part of that? Who would want to assist you with such regard and lack of appreciation and respect? When one is to learn they are to listen more than speak, not speak so much. Otherwise it just seems like baiting and flaming. If you are here to truly learn and advance your interest, as I suggest to almost everyone who first comes here, take the time to get a feel for the community, to fit in, introduce yourself with a proper introduction. Learn the group, the players. Perhaps it is you that is coming here with false expectations and the tone and feedback you are getting is due to the way you are approaching the community, the situation and your expectations? I know the written word can easily be misinterpreted, so understand I do not mean this badly or harshly, but rather seriously with true insight and intent. We welcome those that are truly here to learn, participate and fit in. Those without preconceived expectations or agendas. The more you participate the more we get to know you. "Popping in" as several of you have said may very well be part of the problem. You only seem to come when you want something and then complain when you don't get it and complain when you do get it but not as you would like it. Sometimes the mirror can be most telling. |
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WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts |
Again, assumptions. "You only seem to come when you want something" - I scan threads regularly just rarely jump in because I rarely have anything useful to add. Usually by the time I read a thread it has already dissolved into posturing and insults. I come here because I am interested in hypnosis and I was hoping that there would be occasional references to resources I could study. So far - not so much. But I remain ever hopeful.
I don't expect anything above basic manners and basic levels of respect. Maybe this is because I was raised in a different time? My parents taught me to treat everyone with respect because society does not function without people all across the spectrum. "Who would want to assist you with such regard and lack of appreciation and respect?" - I am "assisted" by pretty much everyone I interact with outside of these forums. Perhaps this is because I make a point of treating everyone with respect immediately, unless of course I am disrespected first. I have little patience for people who look down on me. Do not make the mistake of thinking that just because you know more than me on this subject, that you are better than me. I am perfectly comfortable looking in the mirror. I am perfectly comfortable admitting when I am wrong. Like a scientist, I can only learn if I question everything I think I know and explore the knowledge and approach it with new angles. This forum, however, is rather stuck in a single direction and mind set.
Christopher
Witch Doctor Psycho Seance book: https://tinyurl.com/y873bbr4 Boffo eBook: https://tinyurl.com/387sxkcd |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Scanning threads does not give you the same feel as interacting with people. You are making several rash assumptions.
The written word has no tone. It is added by the reader. When you hear a tone, most times that is on you. For whatever reason YOU add a tone and often you add the wrong one. So instead of jumping to a conclusion of what tone is being used an being all ego offened and get all "don't disrespect me" maybe it would be better if you asked. Don't tell people what tone they are using. ASK them IF there genuinely is a tone, they will let you know. All I see are big speaches about how OTHERS need to communicate, and when it comes down to it perhaps it is those giving the speaches who need to look at how THEY are communicating. Then you have the whole wanting to tell others HOW they convey the information they have to you working. Why is it is I have information you want, you get to dictate to me how it is I have to convey this information to you? Not only do we have to offer this information for free, but we must do it in a way that seems to suit your style? WellI for one am not going to care. I write with NO tone here. I simply am not going to go through all the bs of having to worry what you feel when you read information. Try to read with no tone. That is my advice.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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C.J. Inner circle There's a lotta rambling in my 2366 Posts |
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On Mar 7, 2016, Dannydoyle wrote: This attitude is why all the big names of Mentalism avoid this place like the plague now.
Connor Jacobs - The Thought Sculptor
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yea because all the big names of mentalism used to be regulars in this section.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Kaarlo von Freymann Loyal user Finland 203 Posts |
Dear friends of the Café I am surprised there could be any thread like this about fraudulent testimonials and hypnosis. I do not use hypnosis or claim to hypnotize specs when performing magic except as a very clear JOKE when doing the 100 Monkeys "you can't read anymore" trick. I am very aware of the power of hypnosis because a competent professional hypnotist cured my stubborn ulcer 50 years ago and taught me how to go into self-hypnosis so I did not have to visit him more than 4 times. But it should be clear that anyone putting out fake testimonials should by considered a crook. And I for one feel people like that should be taken to court just like the guys claiming to be able to heal cancer because they have a direct line to the Lord when in fact they have a covert radio link to a stooge. It seems so far few have gone to jail.
PLEASE LET us be honest entertainers. When people ask me how I am able to do what I do with Craig's dice (I have 4 of them), I say, "I do not really know", which is not very far from the truth, "but my dear Lady, I will tell you in case you come with me to the seashore in front of my house on midnight the 24th of June" (the sun in Northern Finland never sets in that period and even in Helsinki you can read a newspaper all night long) People laugh, that solves the question. No-one would consider wasting the mid-summer-night meeting an octogenarian !
Kaarlo von Freymann - Helsinki- Finland
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