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BMWGuy Inner circle Texas 2563 Posts |
Hey guys,
So I had more of a chance to rewatch some of this. I havent yet finished since I am going to rewatch DVD 1 again, but I am already performing one of the card effects from the set. The one called The Story With No End, I believe, it is the spelling effect. Killer, killer........ Even though the Headline Prediction is good, I do not think I will use it, but let me say that I rewatched the Modern Oracle, and to me this set is worth it for that routine alone, I believe it is the easiest Q&A type system you can do with no complicated props, and you can focus on your presentation and readings. From the first DVD, I really liked some of the routines, that is why I am going to rewatch them, like Silent Communication, and Dirty Secret Club. I think you will gain a lot from listening to Luke talk about structure, routining, and more, and I think this set compliments Jermays Mind well. From Jermays Mind, I liked his Q&A approach, as well as his Living and Dead Test, and Jamie stated. Thanks Alex Alejandro
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Sam Hagen Regular user 170 Posts |
Is the Modern Oracle similar to his Imaginary Oracle in Jermay's Mind? Are there any overlapped materials between this and Jermay's Mind?
Thanks, S.H.
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twistedace Inner circle philadelphia 3772 Posts |
Modern Oracle is completely different from his Imaginary Oracle. Modern Oracle will be way more accessible to most people, reveals very specific information, and is ready to go the moment you walk on stage. It does NOT require pr**sh**-ing spectators. You can prep this before you arrive at some venues. It's fantastic.
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Sam Hagen Regular user 170 Posts |
Thanks twistedace! Can you please describe a little bit of each effects? They way they are described on the adcopy is quite vague though.
Thanks, S.H.
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JamieD Inner circle London 1798 Posts |
Okay guys, here is an in-depth review! Taken two hours to review so brace yourself!
Luke Jermay - Premise and Premonition Review by Jamie Daws Luke Jermay has been a firm favourite of mine for many years. Following him since his card tutorials on Penguin Magic when I was younger, following onto the beginnings of his mentalism relates with An Extraordinary Exhibition of Seeing with the Fingertips. His thinking is unique, incredibly well educated and often completely engulfs my mind. He is completely captivating when he performs and in complete honesty, some of favourite parts of both his DVD sets is watching him perform. In the performance sections of this DVD set, its evident in the faces and laughter of the audience, he has them wrapped around his little finger. I also have Jeramy's Mind, his four DVD set that came before this. I loved Jeramy's Mind so getting this set was a no brainer so lets start with the much requested comparison. Jeramy's Mind seems to be filled with more ‘tricks’ that could be used right out the box. For example, his version of the Living and Dead test went straight into my close up act and it slays audiences. That being said, his thinking on Q&A on Jeramy's Mind was absolutely incredible. I could go on and on talking about how amazing Jeramy's Mind is but ill refrain. Premise and Premonition however is more like a study on premise and relaying information. In some respects, nearly every effect on this dvd set is a vehicle to perform a Q&A style effect. Ill go into each effect singularly to give you more of an idea but its filled with insights to get the mind wondering. The Imagined Oracle and the Modern Oracle are very different. The Imagined Oracle is a very clever reading system that exists in your head where as the Modern Oracle is a series of actions and methods that allow you to perform a very clever Q&A style routine without memory work and from someone who has never performed a Q&A style routine but has always wanted to, this is the way I would start out hands down! Its brilliant. But lets get into the individual effects! DISK ONE: Silent Communication In effect, the spectator is handed two boards. One says YES and one says NO. She is asked to only answer in her head and to never show him the answer. He not only matches her answers every time but he relays information about her which is accurate and he shouldn't know. He then adds another board which has the word MAYBE and again reveals her answer with a small reading based around her answer. Lastly, another card saying NOT TELLING. And it follows suit, he reveals her answer with a reading based around her answer. My description of the effect is the bare bones and doesn't do the effect justice. It is, for me, one of the stand out routines of the set. I will be making up a close up version of this and ill be routining it for close up audiences because it really is fantastic. Method wise, it is well thought out but is nothing earth shattering. It does what it needs to do, well and invisibly. It is a really very funny routine. Theres lots of scope for built in humour and adding cards that say other things is also a nice idea. The only thing I was a bit dubious of from Jeramy's performance is his choice of questions. All of them were brilliant but the first one was reminiscent of watching a drunk guy approach a lovely lady one evening and embarrassing himself with a god awful chat up line. He asks, “Do you sleep naked?”. For me it was a bit awkward to watch. There were no giggles and then spectator looked a bit bewildered by it. I only mention this because his other questions were genuinely intriguing. He had, I’m sure, every spectator in that room answering those questions in their heads because they were so engaging. But its a very very small point and each performer will adapt this to their own style. This is a very simple and sure fire way to give basic readings. It’s literally built into the effect. Equally, whats nice about this is, it allows you to give the reading before they answer thus giving the audience the impression, your answers are based on what you intuitively know about her. It’s just a brilliant effect and I cant wait to try it out! DISK ONE: Black Ball Location “Think back to the last time you saw a scary movie”, Jermay begins. He has with him a bag with 5 balls. But he instructs them not to look at the ball but to keep it hidden from all. He has them take it from the bag in test conditions. This is done by 5 spectators. They are all instructed to turn around and peek at the balls. 4 have a white ball and 1 has a black ball. “If you have a white ball think about a memory from your own life that makes you feel happy. If you have a black ball, think about a memory that makes you feel sad”, he continues. He now uses his intuition to find the happiness and the sadness. He then appears to reveal those memories and proves that by revealing who has the white balls. He finished by giving a small spiritual gift to the gentleman who had the sad memory. So this is Jeramy's version of Max Mavens ‘Kurotsuke’. This is again, another vehicle to reveal information on your spectators in a Q&A style routine. Its brilliantly constructed. He takes you through how to make the props needed which is fairly easy once you find the materials. The method isn't anything ground breaking once again but his thinking on the method and his performance experience with the method is brilliant. Again, it gives the audience the impression that the mind reader is reading specific thoughts from the audience and uses the balls as proof of this. Equally, the premise of finding the good in the bad is beautiful. Such a nice idea. It’s probably not quite a routine I would personally use but its a brilliant routine. DISK ONE: Shape Shifter Drawing Duplication “One of you has already volunteered and you don't even know it. If you have a sticker on your chair, we have found our artist”, he begins. The audience check their chairs and one lady confirms she has the sticker on her chair. She joins him on stage. She is asked to think of a simple image. To keep a couple of them in her mind and each time he snaps his fingers, she is to change her mind. He has her close her eyes and think of the first image. He draws something on the pad. Seemingly the first image she has in her mind. She changes her mind and he draws another simple design. A third time, she changes her mind and he draws into the pad what she is seemingly thinking. A fourth change of her mind and again Jermay draws his impressions on the pad. She is asked to settle on one of those images. He then draws down what he thinks, tears it off and hands it to another audience member. He then reveals to her an imagine she was thinking of earlier without her saying a word. She confirms this. Then she is asked to draw her final image onto the pad and she the audience. His prediction is opened and it matches! This one got me GOOD! It had me scratching my head. She was picked at random, she didn't write anything down, she seemingly picked 4 or 5 random images and settled on one that Jermay couldn't possible know and then not only did he reveal the final image, he also confirmed another image she was thinking about! Not to mention drawing three other images she was supposedly thinking of! It’s probably the cleanest looking Drawing Duplication I have ever seen. Initially when it got to the method, I was somewhat disappointed but I entered into things with an open mind and this has to be, for me, one of the best effects for the method on the DVD set for me. Many may disagree but I really found a lot of value in this. I’ve always been nervous about methods like this one and never felt comfortable with the idea of performing it. Let me say, after this, I WILL try this. His insight is second to non and his experience really shows with this one. Its brilliant and I would love to his more of his thoughts on this in the future. It really has installed confidence in me and I truly feel, without any fear that I could pull this off successfully without any fear after watching this. Loved it! DISK ONE: Dirty Secret Club He hands a pencil and some paper to 5 member of the audience and tells them they are the newest members of his Dirty Secret Club. He asks them all to write down a secret. These are all collected and one of them is chosen by another audience member sight unseen from everyone. Jeremy then proceeds to reveal the contents of the secret on the paper. Again, this is the bare bones of the effect but once again, its a beautifully simple way to reveal some truly intimate information about a spectator and the structure of the routine is so well put together. Its got built in humour, its intriguing and its scarily accurate. Theres not much more I can say about this one. Great premise and great thinking! DISK TWO: Touching on Hypnosis Jeremy asks the entire audience to take part in a little experiment in which they are asked to focus on their fingers being drawn together as if they were magnets. He then uses this to relax his audience and selects three of the most responsive spectators. Once on stage, he relaxes them further and after clicking in front of their eyes, each spectator dramatically close their eyes as their heads drop forward. They appear to be hypnotised. Then, after some script, he appears to make the spectators forget their names, makes them forget numbers and get stuck in all sorts of positions. He has hypnotised them, it is funny, entertaining and bizarre! He then un hypnotises them and they return back to their seats. So, how is it possible to create a truly pseudo hypnosis demonstration that looks and feels real? Well, Luke has done just that! This thing is absolutely brilliant! I cannot rave about this routine enough. I’ve been studying Hypnosis for about a year now. Mostly focussing on therapy but with the intention to perform it alongside magic. That being said, Im finding it hard to get the confidence to perform stage hypnosis or close up hypnosis. This is the perfect fail safe method for me. Knowing I have this is my pocket means, I have no reason not to perform it now. Its a brilliant continuation of Touching On Hoy from Jeramy's Mind. However, I dare say, I prefer the thought of the method for this. It really looks like the audience members are hypnotised. That being said, he follows the structure of stage hypnosis. This means, you can achieve real hypnotic phenomena. Infant, Id be surprised if it doesn't elicit come kind of hypnotic behaviour. Either way, this is brilliant. The only sleight negative I can find is that, the general public are already dubious as to whether hypnosis is real and if the spectators on stage are just ‘playing along’. This may not help that notion. However, anyone looking to perform hypnotic feats but haven't got the confidence to go straight into it, this is an invaluable routine for you. DISK TWO: Modern Oracle This is a mini Q&A style act. Spectators in the audience are asked to write down both their names onto slips of card. They only write their names and nothing else. They are mixed and one of the names is placed sight unseen into an envelope which is held by an audience member. The mind reader then takes one of the names from the pile and begins a reading based on the name on that card. Not only is it an accurate reading of them as a person but it includes incredibly accurate information that no one could have known. Throughout the reading, the mind reader comes back to the enveloped name and jots things down on a pad. At the climax of the routine, the name is for the first name taken out of the envelope and it is read aloud. The pad in turned around and although the mentalist never saw the name written down and never asked for anything else to be written down, he tells that chap his star sign, date of birth and incredibly accurate things about his life that the mentalist could never know! This is the routine of the entire DVD set for me. It is absolutely breathtaking, baffling and just brilliant! Watching it, I had no idea how he was doing what he was doing. I think, believe it or not, it was because I had seen his Q&A second on Jeramy's Mind. Because I had those methods in mind, that threw me with this one. So, keep this in mind from not only a performance point of view but also a method. All of this is true. The spectators only ever write down their names. No other information is written down, at no point in the show. This isn't a one ahead style method and it truly needs no memory work. It looks like real mind reading and takes minimal effort on the side of the performer. There are fails safes built in and even those with no Q&A knowledge, could theoretically get some good milage out of this. That being said, mixing it with methods from Jeramy's Mind would be far better but those without reading skills could still do well with this. The climax of the name placed in an envelope is also such a beautiful touch. A lovely way to bring the routine to an end! I sincerely hope I get to perform this one day. His thinking of revealing information and how to do it is priceless also. This is worth the price of the DVD and although I think it might be hard to adapt this to a close up situation, it would be perfect for parlour and smaller groups of people. Brilliant is all I can say! DISK TWO: Fools Journey This is Lukes touch on performing with Tarot cards. This is an interesting idea and makes me want to delve into tarot cards. He returns to tarot throughout both DVD sets and he makes it seem worth while learning. Theres not much a can say about this without just telling you what it is but its an interesting idea that will make your spectators think deeply. DISK THREE: Blindfold Deal - Red, Black Separation - Psychometry Presentation - Drawing Duplication This is literally what it sounds like. The spectator mixes a deck, the performer blindfolds himself and deals through the borrowed, freely shuffled deck. Every now and again throwing a card of to the side. He of course throws a four of a kind out. So, this was the disk I was most looking froward to. Jeramy's Mind had some brilliant card routines in. His Tossed out Deck is brilliant and his Colour Separation effect is equally brilliant. Not to mention his separate project, GAME which is phenomenal and I perform at gigs. This is the disk that is going to appeal most to close up magicians/ mentalists that are looking to buy this set. Sadly, I was probably most disappointed with this. The method utilised here is a modern day version of an old method. Sure it works and no doubt you can do a few effects with it but it just wasn't for me. Something I wont use and sadly, it occupies over an hour of this disk. There are a couple of interesting effects on this disk though so don't be disheartened. DISK THREE - Marked Personality Essentially, the mentalist uses the deck as a Tarot deck. Allowing the mentalist to give deep, intimate, personal readings about his spectator. This is a much more in depth exploration of something i’ve seen from Peter Turner. However, this is much more developed and far cleverer in my opinion. Again, theres not much to say about this. It’s literally a system to appear to know about the problems concerning your spectator and answer those problems without them saying anything. Very smart idea and something I may use in the future. DISK THREE: He Will Find You The spectator hands the spectator a piece of paper and tells them he wants them to allow a playing card to find them. To allow a card to connect with them in one way. The flicks through the deck and allows them to see a card. They announce the card they are thinking of and the paper is opened to find the message, “The King of Clubs will find you”. After some script, the mentalist deals through the cards one by one until they say stop. The card they stop at is the Kind proving that he will always find them! This is a cute effect. Nothing to difficult or earth shattering here in terms of method but what really does this justice is the premise. He has some great ideas on turning it from a pick a card trick trick to a card picking them. Making a card trick seem like real magic. It’s really worth your attention and again, probably something I might start trying to routine. DISK THREE: Story Without an End The performer tell three stories about luck and coincidence. Then he hands out stacks of playing cards to three different spectators. They are all asked to shuffle their piles then to think of any card in their hand. The cards are once again shuffled and gathered up by a spectator. Once again, the spectator shuffles them up in the fairest way possible. During the talk of coincidence, the performer asks spectator number one what her card was. Without shifting, shuffling or messing with the deck in anyway, he spells down to their card. The last card is turned over, its found to be their card. The second spectator is handed the cards and is intruded to deal one card at a time on the table whilst spelling her card out loud. The final card of that count is turned over and its found to be the selection! The final spectator is handed the deck and this time, he is asked not to mention to name of his card but to deal each card on the table. One card for each letter of his card. But again, not to say a thing. He does this and before the card is turned over, the mentalist reads the spectators mind and manages to reveal his thought of card. Finally, the card dealt to is turned over and found to be the thought of selection! This is the card effect of the DVD set. Ill go on record and say, I hate spelling tricks. Ive learnt countless spelling tricks over the years and non of them have done anything for me. I find them dull and boring for everyone involved. Many will disagree and I appreciate that entirely. Simply my preference. That being said, this is dynamite! It had me completely fooled and I was completely drawn in by the premise. His patter is perfect and just everything about this is gorgeous! This is going into my working set immediately. It is nearly self working and whilst there is a tiny bit of one time preparation. Once the deck is made, you're set for life! It’s just brilliant and I cannot wait to try it out! DISK THREE: Double Dowsing Two card are seem by two spectators. The mentalist keeps his head turned during the selection process. The cards are fairly mixed and the cards split into four piles. Using his psychic dowsing powers, he eliminates the piles he doesn't think the first selection is in. Until he gets down to one pile. Then he calls out the number FOUR. The cards in the final pile are dealt down to the fourth position and the first selection is found. Finally, he gathers up the entire deck and allows a number to come to mind. He deals down to that number, at that position is the second selection! This is another cute little effect. Very simple to execute but involves only a borrowed deck of cards. The method is very simple and while its not a ground breaking effect, if you're looking to demonstrate ‘psychic’ powers, this will be a brilliant start! This will be kept in my reserve for the right time! DISK THREE: Nailed ACAAN (Performance Only) This is a very clean looking ACAAN but to prove he is not manipulating the deck in anyway, he skewers the deck onto a large nail! This is beautiful in every respect. Presentationally, its one of the most intriguing ideas i’ve seen. He talks about other ideas including an idea with a Bear Trap which sounded absolutely brilliant! He only performs it and doesn't explain to allow us to enjoy some kind of mystery but informs us that the methods have been taught amongst other effects on the DVD. I dare say, I have an idea of the method but to be honest, I don't really mind, I love the presentation and one day develop my own version with a skewered deck! DISK FOUR: The Headline Prediction This is the classic effect that I'm sure everyone has heard of. Ahead of time, Luke sends a radio show host an envelope a week before he is due to be on air. He asks them not to open it until the day of his arrival. On the day of his arrival, on air, the envelope is opened and inside is found to be a prediction of future events. Luke bring with him a selection of that days newspaper. Somehow, even though the envelope has been with the radio host all week and she opens it live on air, he has successfully predicted the events of that days newspapers! So, no doubt those that have seen Lukes YouTube have seen his performance of this on Live Radio and I must admit, I was floored. I’ve always wanted to know how an effect like this is done. This doesn't disappoint however, it doesn't disappoint in a way I was expecting. The method itself is bold. Very, very bold. As bold as a method can get I would argue. That immediately puts me off. I don't mind bold but this just seems scary. Especially if you are using this as a publicity stunt on live radio! However, in typical Luke Jermay style, it’s the nuances and all the tiny subtleties that make this an incredibly strong effect. So much so, I began watching the effect thinking… Nope! Never! and ended it thinking…. I really want to try this out! That being said, there are parts of this effect that really really don't suit my character and I’ve already thought up ways to adapt this to my own suitability! His thinking with this is deep and endless. Honestly, every eventuality, everything that could go wrong, he underlines in length. Any doubt I had about this is gone and I really want to give it a go. This could potentially be one of the strongest routines you ever do as a mentalist. I love it and you will not be disappointed by the end of it! DISK FOUR: The Interview This is exactly what you'd expect. An incredibly personable interview in which you not only get to know about Jeramy's past, but even more about how he thinks, why he thinks that way and everything in between. To conclude, this DVD set is an absolute must have if you're into magic/mentalism. His experience alone is worth every penny. That being said, I truly feel like Jeramy's Mind and this compliment each other well and Luke refers to Jeramy's Mind often. It truly feel like together, they're an invaluable resource of mental madness! Those who know me and follow my previous reviews know just how much magic I collect and review and I dare say, this is the best DVD box set I own and might possibly own. They are destined to become classics and I once again cannot recommend this enough! Jamie Daws
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Charming Cheat New user 99 Posts |
Very very thank u! for the nice review!!
Not that youtuber.
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Karl M Inner circle 1276 Posts |
Brilliant reveiw Jamie mate, when you are making up the close up version of the Silent Communication are you using the same materials but smaller, I am interested becasue I have performed it but not as a close up one yet?
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JamieD Inner circle London 1798 Posts |
Thank Karl! No, I think I'm going to make it out of blank faced cards, use the same marking principle that Luke mentioned in Jeramy's Mind with them. Simple but effective! If I were to make them a little bit bigger, Maybe notebook sized, then I think using the same materials as Luke uses would work fine!
Jamie Daws
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Karl M Inner circle 1276 Posts |
Got you mate thank you very much for sharing that mate, very appreicated
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Sam Hagen Regular user 170 Posts |
Thanks for the thorough review, Jamie!
Regards, S.H.
May you live in interesting times.
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BCE Loyal user 280 Posts |
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Ok, now this is back on my radar again. Does he use RWS or non-RWS, or is it more pertinent to performing with them generally? Leaving editorial aside to keep thread on topic, I'd like to know how much is remedial (for lack of a better word) and how much is of a general nature. Thanks. |
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Magical Dimensions Inner circle 5001 Posts |
Now this sounds like something exciting.
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de rome New user UK/NORWAY 71 Posts |
I have just read over the report on Luke Jermays 4 DVD set Premise and Premonition
and was wondering why a section was not reviewed at all TOUCHING ON HYPNOSIS, on DVD 2 maybe JamieD would like to share his comments on this effect as well seeing as he has done so well with the rest of the review ( and great review it was ) and bring it right up to date and finalized
you will never find a better quality HEAT / HOTSPOT / HYPNO HEAT as mine anywhere else, ITS REALLY GOOD... here is a link to the effect NEW WEB SITE AND TO ORDER
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JamieD Inner circle London 1798 Posts |
De rome: Here is the section about Touching On Hypnosis:
DISK TWO: Touching on Hypnosis Jeremy asks the entire audience to take part in a little experiment in which they are asked to focus on their fingers being drawn together as if they were magnets. He then uses this to relax his audience and selects three of the most responsive spectators. Once on stage, he relaxes them further and after clicking in front of their eyes, each spectator dramatically close their eyes as their heads drop forward. They appear to be hypnotised. Then, after some script, he appears to make the spectators forget their names, makes them forget numbers and get stuck in all sorts of positions. He has hypnotised them, it is funny, entertaining and bizarre! He then un hypnotises them and they return back to their seats. So, how is it possible to create a truly pseudo hypnosis demonstration that looks and feels real? Well, Luke has done just that! This thing is absolutely brilliant! I cannot rave about this routine enough. I’ve been studying Hypnosis for about a year now. Mostly focussing on therapy but with the intention to perform it alongside magic. That being said, Im finding it hard to get the confidence to perform stage hypnosis or close up hypnosis. This is the perfect fail safe method for me. Knowing I have this is my pocket means, I have no reason not to perform it now. Its a brilliant continuation of Touching On Hoy from Jeramy's Mind. However, I dare say, I prefer the thought of the method for this. It really looks like the audience members are hypnotised. That being said, he follows the structure of stage hypnosis. This means, you can achieve real hypnotic phenomena. Infant, Id be surprised if it doesn't elicit come kind of hypnotic behaviour. Either way, this is brilliant. The only sleight negative I can find is that, the general public are already dubious as to whether hypnosis is real and if the spectators on stage are just ‘playing along’. This may not help that notion. However, anyone looking to perform hypnotic feats but haven't got the confidence to go straight into it, this is an invaluable routine for you. Jamie Daws
TORCE - VMRS - DARK SERIES
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de rome New user UK/NORWAY 71 Posts |
Thanks for that JamieD, a brilliant review of the DVD set
I thought it was also brilliant, and I have a very good friend who only performs Hypnosis shows Paul James, and he was amazed at some of the things Luke mentioned, that stood out to him as brilliant, and he could not believe that no other person lecturing on the subject had thought of these subttle moves and things going on, and have not mentioned them in any of there lectures, This 4 DVD set is one of the best value for money sets any magician could wish toy buy
you will never find a better quality HEAT / HOTSPOT / HYPNO HEAT as mine anywhere else, ITS REALLY GOOD... here is a link to the effect NEW WEB SITE AND TO ORDER
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gillesA4 Special user Brussels, Belgium 593 Posts |
Just a line from Belgium:
According to Wikipedia, 5,52 % of the world population are native english speakers: this means that 94,48% are NOT, even if about one billion among us actually speaks english, and I'am one of them, but... Luke, why do you have to speak THAT FAST???? Watching your dvd is killing! BTW I must confess it's also absolutely fascinating. Thanks a million!
We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. (A. Einstein)
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Dra_cu_la_ New user 11 Posts |
I truly want the piano background music in Luke's performance !!! It is really nice to use.
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Paul S Wingham Inner circle 1378 Posts |
I got this and started watching. What I like about luke jermay is unlike so many mentalist creators it is abundantly clear that he performs the stuff he is teaching and not just once or twice, but over and over again. As a consequence you learn the effect plus all the things that could go wrong and alternative ideas. Its brilliant.
I cant compete with the quality reviews already written but if you liked mind you'll love this as its more of the same; different material but all solid and well performed. Well worth the money. |
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majura1 New user 36 Posts |
For those who have these videos any thoughts on the trick nailed ACAAN that he does not explain.I can think of a few explanations but I am interested in the thoughts of others. I guess you better PM me.
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illusioneer Special user NYC 751 Posts |
Good things come to those who do their research, majura1.
Sorry, I know that all sounds like BS but I just told you where Luke has been very gracious... It's something you have to work for. Those who have worked for it should NOT tell you.
Things are about to change........ LIGHTS!!!
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