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Titanas V.I.P. 1995 Posts |
Polarity looks like a fun and easy to perform trick,
I always loved impossible looking magic that is super easy to do, so you can focus on the performance and yet it will kill spectators! More info: Blue: http://www.murphysmagic.com/Product.aspx?id=55660 Red: http://www.murphysmagic.com/Product.aspx?id=55659 Best regards, Titanas
Product Developer @ Murphys Magic Supplies
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TuneHV Inner circle New York 2063 Posts |
I suppose the method is different based on the ad copy, but this really looks identical to Boris Wild's POP (Perfect Open Prediction).
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lucavolpe Inner circle Italy - London 3349 Posts |
This looks really good! Bravo Pablo!
Luca Volpe
"The Italian Mentalist" https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/lucavolpe http://www.lucavolpe.com |
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Amirá Inner circle MentalismCenter.com 5131 Posts |
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On May 12, 2016, TuneHV wrote: Yes, it is different and also all the added ideas makes this offer a new working piece for the performer. The explanation and performance from Chris was really exceptional. I add in here my stack using cards for doing a killer 2 phase routine. All the best
Pablo
Performer and Author Mentalism Center: The best online space to get quality Mentalism www.mentalismcenter.com Arkanosophy: The Boutique for Mystery Performers www.arkanosophy.com |
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magico Special user Connecticut 862 Posts |
This appears to be similar to Hector Chadwick's routine Johnny's Dilemma that appear in Thomas Baxter's OP Project. In the credits it is noted that Ed Marlo is credited with being the first to publish the idea. Marlo's version was called Open Prediction (12th) and was published in Jon Racherbaumer's Sticks and Stones (Number 7; July, 1977) within Lloyd Jones’s The Greater S.O.B. Jr. A number of others used the idea including Gary Ouellet, who marketed the effect in 1994 under the name The Proton Deck.
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
Interesting Magico.
Let's hope crediting has been carried out with due diligence. |
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Amirá Inner circle MentalismCenter.com 5131 Posts |
Thanks magico for your references. Indeed this deck is based in those works (and they were credited) but we offer a new approach in terms of the thematical presentations and the extra use of other method that allows the creation of not just an open prediction but also a mindreading effect using the same special deck, an extra idea that according my previouw knowledge was not done before.
Best
Pablo
Performer and Author Mentalism Center: The best online space to get quality Mentalism www.mentalismcenter.com Arkanosophy: The Boutique for Mystery Performers www.arkanosophy.com |
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Tally_NSA Loyal user Essex, UK 222 Posts |
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On May 12, 2016, magico wrote: LOL This site never ceases to amaze me. And I mean that in the good sense - I am truly amazed at your encyclopaedia-like knowledge. Well done Sir! If you want to come and find out who did what where and when, just post here at the Café, and someone will amaze you by giving you chapter and verse. Impressive stuff! |
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magico Special user Connecticut 862 Posts |
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On May 13, 2016, Amirá wrote: That's good to hear. The Proton Deck by Jean Boucher & Patrick Reymond included 3 effects. Here are the descriptions of the effects. WIDE OPEN: Gary Ouellet's version of the Curry Open Prediction features an amazing handling of a classic effect! The magician makes an open prediction, say the 9 of Clubs. The spectator takes the deck, deals cards face up onto the table, and whenever he chooses, deals one card face down. He then continues to deal through the entire deck, never finding the 9 of Clubs. Naturally, the card he reversed turns out to match the prediction! TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE: A spectator is asked to hide a deck of cards from view, then take any card out, turn it upside down, and reinsert it into the deck wherever he chooses. The magician then accurately predicts the outcome! Note that the deck is a true 52 card deck, the spectator can select any card from anywhere in the deck, and the spectator spreads the cards to reveal the ending! DO-WAH AS I DO-WAH: A spectator cuts the deck in half, keeping one of the two portions for himself and giving the other to the magician. Each shuffle their respective halves, and exchange two cards (for a total of four). These four cards turn out to be the four kings! I am looking forward to see what you have added. Magico |
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IanB Loyal user Derby 262 Posts |
Always amazes me that "named" magicians praise and advertise the latest releases only to find that the items aren't original, often uncredited and occasionally ripped off.
Why don't inventors do a bit of due diligence. If little old me who is not a "named" magician knows of this and all of it's variations surely the companies and people involved at a high level should do? I've been using the Proton Deck since it was first released. Apart from a presentational spin there is no real difference here. This is happening more and more ... |
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Amirá Inner circle MentalismCenter.com 5131 Posts |
No need to over-dramatize this product guys. In "Polarity" we didn't release something "not original, uncredited or just rip off" . Ian, I cant understand how you can know that in this product we did not add any difference if you don't have the product to compare. If you only are having an opinion by seeing the trailer, you are not having a complete image for sure.
"Polarity" uses the concept from the Proton Deck but the product in my opinion is a valid new original offer because we add interesting thematics to use far different to just explicitly name a card outloud and make it happen without a narrative that is memorable, and the option to do a 2-phase routine using a card stack that, to my knowledge, is not an option explored before. I know that the concept of "originality" is subjective in all creative crafts, but if you follow the school of thought of John de Graaf regarding the 5 levels of creativity, for sure this product does not reach a deep level but it has never been part of it. This product is offered as a basic effect, with no sleight of hand, perfect for the student of mystery arts how wants a clean prediction but most important, a full thematical performance that is credible and interesting to experience and not just a boring explanation of what is happening (I name the 5 of clubs...deal the cards...one turnover...the 5 of clubs....). I believe that any magic product is valid if adds something creative and original to it and I believe that "Polarity" fits that category. For owners of the Proton Deck, sure, you can copy the theme used by Chris in the trailer, not buying "Polarity" and use it in your own performance but you will miss part of the value of the product. Best
Pablo
Performer and Author Mentalism Center: The best online space to get quality Mentalism www.mentalismcenter.com Arkanosophy: The Boutique for Mystery Performers www.arkanosophy.com |
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Amirá Inner circle MentalismCenter.com 5131 Posts |
Again guys, I have nothing but respect for previous authors and publications.
I create this independently and before working in this, I did the investigation and knew about the Proton Deck. I approach the appropiate persons and talk privately about the viability of this product and all was sorted. Everything was and is done with the intention to create contribution. Originality has various factors in this business and I think that we need to also take the importance about the authenticity, and althought "Polarity" doesn't offer a new addition in terms of gimmkicked decks, it offers new thematics and a new 2-phase option that is fun to do and can create great new moments for our audiences. All the best
Pablo
Performer and Author Mentalism Center: The best online space to get quality Mentalism www.mentalismcenter.com Arkanosophy: The Boutique for Mystery Performers www.arkanosophy.com |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12941 Posts |
Often times it makes sense to offer a refreshing idea to the community if it's based on an already existing product. No sense in rebuilding the wheel as they say.
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DigaMag Veteran user Indonesia 308 Posts |
Since this is a gimmicked deck, can it be inspected at the end ?
Thanks in advance Diga |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12941 Posts |
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On May 14, 2016, DigaMag wrote: What gimmicked deck can? And what difference does it make? Not trying to be combative but comon the answer is obvious. |
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Artie Fufkin Special user 853 Posts |
Why on earth would anybody want to inspect a deck that they were just holding in their hands and dealing cards from?
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DigaMag Veteran user Indonesia 308 Posts |
Thanks for the Answers guys ...
Diga |
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Jonathan1000 Veteran user 325 Posts |
Pablo, without disclosing methods, can you briefly describe how your effect offers advantages to Perfect Open Prediction?
Thanks!
"Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals." -- Homer Simpson
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Amirá Inner circle MentalismCenter.com 5131 Posts |
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On May 15, 2016, Jonathan1000 wrote: Hi Jonathan1000, thanks for the interest. Both effects are similar in some ways but Polarity have the advantage of that your setup is more easily covered and more simple. Also in personal aspects my routine has other advantages but then we enter in exposure, which I will not do in respect of my release and Boris creation. Best
Pablo
Performer and Author Mentalism Center: The best online space to get quality Mentalism www.mentalismcenter.com Arkanosophy: The Boutique for Mystery Performers www.arkanosophy.com |
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Saturn UK Inner circle 2658 Posts |
This arrived in stock today with a DVD and deck ready to go!
It is very easy to do and plays just like the trailer, it's also very good value for money considering it all made up ready to go. Check it out here http://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/saturn-magi......ick.html
www.saturnmagic.co.uk
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