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J-Mac
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On Jun 24, 2016, New User wrote:
Tyler what do you mean "if New User isn't dude" ?


Pretty clear: he's asking if you are the guy who calls himself "Allmagicy", posts comments on his YouTube channel, and emailed him trying to sell him some Okito material. Smile

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I kind of thought so but rather than jump to conclusions and assume I thought I would be sure.
And no I am not "dude" I'll save that title for Jeff Bridges. Smile
As far as Mr Rabbit goes I didn't know who he was until the above comment.

I do think the comment is interesting in the fact that he popped in to do the same thing he makes mention of being done to him.
I am new to the Magic Café so maybe this is just how it's done here?
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Hey New User, no ill will meant. Dude is just a local term of endearment/familiarity where I live (just a few miles from Lebowski). Since most people are more-or-less anonymous online, there's no reason to think anyone is or isn't anyone in particular, and therefor no reason to take that fact personally. There's no reason you'd know who I am, but I am not anonymous... I know others treasure their anonymity online.

Whoever you are, and whoever Allmagicy is, you're both friends in magic as far as am concerned. Am glad he subscribes to and comments on my channel and put out what sounds like some prety cool material and am glad you're here @ the Café. Mainly I was just curious about dude. Lookin' fwd to checking out the material. And before I get in trouble w/ Chuck; I wasn't accusing him of shilling.. was just being- I dunno- light.. It's all good.. Chuck (and everyone), thanks for dropping info. Am intrigued.
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On Jun 24, 2016, New User wrote:

Has anyone tried any of the routines out on anyone yet?
I was going to try a couple of them but I wasn't totally comfortable yet.
Just a bit more practice first.


I actually did give My old halves and No table required a shot last night.
I found that these two routines were sensational. Easy to get into and no reset was great plus these don't have knuckle busting sleights either.
It was nice having them on my pocket ready to go with no set up. They were really nice when I got to the "cluttered" tables that had nowhere to set stuff down.
I used No table required in the lobby at least three times and each time the response was great.
It is really nice having this in my pocket always ready.
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On Jun 23, 2016, fonda57 wrote:
So this is the not just the same kind of stuff already printed in David Roth's book?


I would say no on that. Though he uses moves in some of his stuff that was credited to David Roth there
Is a lot of new thinking with them. A good example would be the Roth Clink Pass. He uses it but in a few new ways
That are interesting.
He also uses a lid load because it's a standard Okito box sleight too. He does have a superb version of the lid load that should
Be considered to become a standard sleight just because it's so sneaky.
His sleight called the Ipswitch Switch is marvelous truthfully I've found that I just like doing it for my own entertainment.
One of my favorites is Hoo Thru and Thru it's a great routine that is just fun to watch and the thinking behind it is great. It just has a great flow.
But My Old Halves is certainly going to be the first I perform.
Magical Pictures
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I know you can learn nearly anything with enough time and effort but
Is this really hard stuff I guess more to the point is it knuckle busting stuff?

I'm just trying to get a feel for how hard it is to learn.
J-Mac
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It's as hard as anything - it really depends on you, how fast you learn. And more important, how committed you are to learning it. I haven't seen anything yet, in books or DVDs, that I didn't understand immediately; of course I couldn't even begin to actually DO them until after I'd spent weeks or months - and in some cases years - practicing them many repetitions per day.

I would call most of the coin box work I've seen that is worth performing "intermediate" level. Anything that's easy to do with coin boxes is usually very short and less than entertaining.

My opinion anyway.

Thanks!

Jim
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On Jun 28, 2016, Magical Pictures wrote:
I know you can learn nearly anything with enough time and effort but
Is this really hard stuff I guess more to the point is it knuckle busting stuff?

I'm just trying to get a feel for how hard it is to learn.


My opinion is that it is not too hard at all. There are easier things and a few that are a bit harder.
But everything in this is within the grasp of anyone to do I'm sure.
I would say that if you can Classic Palm, or finger palm, and speak at the same time you'll be good.
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I had Reinhardt Mueller VHS way back in the day and spent hours watching it.
I know using an Okito box doesn't seem to be the big thing these days but some new fresh material would be good.
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And If You are Looking For Boston Box Stuff ( without A coin stuck in the botton) I have a BIG softbound book on it!!! Smile
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Hey David you said that in the second post.
You could have saved time and quoted yourself. Smile
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Sorry Man I just got up ( vary Late Night Last Night! ) And did Not Look Good Brfore I posted! Smile And Now that you posted I can not Edit! Smile
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No worries I just thought the idea of quoting it was funny.
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Yea Not Bad For A town This size! Smile
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Chuck Finley
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On Jun 30, 2016, Dr. Stevens wrote:
I had Reinhardt Mueller VHS way back in the day and spent hours watching it.
I know using an Okito box doesn't seem to be the big thing these days but some new fresh material would be good.


I had this myself and it is a great place to start with Okito box work. Coin Box Concepts takes the subject of coin boxes way beyond that.
Magical Pictures
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Thank J-Mac and William
I decided to order this and I just want to say this is fantastic.
And your answer was perfect it is not all really hard as far as the sleights.
I certainly see why My old halves and No Table Required are being hyped a bit they are great routines.

I actually ordered a clear coin box because of the ideas with it. The one at a time removal of the coins from the clear box is just great.
I was was quite surprised how many great ideas were on here.
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I would say the hardest routine in the whole thing is Spellbinding Box, I think that's at least close to the right name, and that's not really hard.
Though there are a couple things that need that "knack" to do. One gave me a bit of trouble the first few times I tried it.
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There seems to be a lot of anonymity and new users talking about this project. Then I go to the website and the creator is anonymous too. I don't know the material but this makes me wary. If you stand behind your work why not get your name out there? Does he provide credits? Personally I'd rather buy from a "real" person.
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I'm with you Maestro, the anonymous thing doesn't make it any better. I don't have these, but a friend (who no longer posts here) who knows his stuff, didn't see any new moves, and said there was a major lack of crediting.
William Dee
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I have both of these and I can tell you that he does a lot of crediting throughout both.
In fact he mentions someone else's name in almost everything on this.
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