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John C
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On Sep 2, 2016, VIEW wrote:
Yes hopefully the whole thing will be good when it comes together.

But - isn't it a bit lazy? Shouldn't they have a full routine every instalment? It feels like they've sold us three fly and are only showing us the first movement. I don't get it.

Also - the original cassidy name and place routine, which this is certainly based on/inspired by - is far better in comparison.

Wow, I sound like a real grump!


Yes! to the grump part. Maybe you're not, but sound like one.
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On Dec 11, 2016, Tim Cavendish wrote:
Michael Weber is undeniably a brilliant mentalist.

He's also friends with Ricky Jay, whose contempt for hobbyist magicians is legendary. Ricky simply shuns them.

Michael Weber sells to hobbyists, but I think to a certain degree he shares Ricky's feelings and, in my view, those feelings are manifested in his commercial dealings with the hobbyists.


How did you arrive at this conclusion? I bought two great items at mindvention. I used to be a pro. Now an amateur, always a hobbyist.
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Are you guys confusing The Works (a kit) with The Journal of Psience (a digital magazine)?

I just got another issue of Psience today so they have delivered on the six promised issues and one or two of the promised bonus issues.

I think we may have one bonus left for Volume One.
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We were promised much more than just six issues, there are certainly many more props in the box to fill many more issues. Also, I believe there was only one bonus item promised for early subscribers.

I have been very satisfied with the material as it arrives, but like everyone I am a little more than disappointed with the way distribution in being handled.

That being said I'm fairly confident that the gentlemen in charge will fulfill their obligations in their entirety, eventually...

Assuming we reach a satisfactory conclusion I would sign up for another future installment.
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We were promised much more than just six issues, there are certainly many more props in the box to fill many more issues. Also, I believe there was only one bonus item promised for early subscribers.

I have been very satisfied with the material as it arrives, but like everyone I am a little more than disappointed with the way distribution in being handled.

That being said I'm fairly confident that the gentlemen in charge will fulfill their obligations in their entirety, eventually...

Assuming we reach a satisfactory conclusion I would sign up for another future installment.



It seems I was confused. There was a release yesterday for The Journal of Psience not The Works, for which we are still owed several issues.

This thread however should remain on the topic of The Works and not Psience.
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I too received my psciense new idea. I don't know how many are included in the $150
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Works #8 was delivered on Friday. It is delivered by Psienece. There are still 4 more due. This has not been the quality of effects I expected from Mr. Weber. I do not know about the Journal of Psience material, I expect that they may be completely different.
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I think that weber his better at inventing magic effect than inventing mind reading effect. To invent a convincing mind reading effect you need to think like a real mind reader.
Usually the effect will be very simple like a thought that moves from one mind to another.
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Works #8 was delivered on Friday. It is delivered by Psienece. There are still 4 more due. This has not been the quality of effects I expected from Mr. Weber. I do not know about the Journal of Psience material, I expect that they may be completely different.



I agree. Not too impressed with what I received so far. I would rather have spent $150 on one good solid item.
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I am sure that you can find strong material that no one else is doing in books that you already have.
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What makes it worse is the constant hawking of expensive effects IN THE MIDDLE of the delayed Psience effects.
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Offering a $20 item that is exclusive to them, or special admittance to a secret show at Houdini's old home?

If offers like that bother you, you can always just delete the email.
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This has not been the quality of effects I expected from Mr. Weber.

I agree. Not too impressed with what I received so far.

I was massively underwhelmed by Weber/Trono's Real Secrets, so decided to learn from that experience and skip both The Works and Psience.
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Me too. I wanted to like it as it was a great idea but the same idea over and over put me off.
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"Repetition is the mother of learning, the father of action,and the architect of accomplishment.”
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"Repetition is the mother of learning, the father of action,and the architect of accomplishment.”



So why don't babies continue to fall when they get up and try to walk? Even they understand Einstein's theory of insanity.
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John C,

The comment above, "a great idea but the same idea over and over put me off" is what prompted my response.

My experience suggests that we all stop thinking too soon. One way to overcome this standardized "I already know that" complacency is
to force ourselves to go back and reexamine the things we believe we already "know."

Real Secrets, The Works and Psience have many innovative developments and discoveries with classics like The Trick that Fooled Einstein, The Impenetrable Secret, and more. Every time they changed it up with a new set of objects, a new story, new procedures and new effects.

I have spoken to others on both sides of the fence, but any time I met someone who felt like Markymark, I would show them one of the items I learned and they would always respond with "Now THAT'S the kind of thing I like! Why didn't they send us material like that?"

We can never cross the same river twice.
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