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On Dec 28, 2016, simplymagicweb wrote:
Here's a little clip... just playing!

https://youtu.be/o7GEnrA3LYc


I just love this, too! Smile

Just a beautiful take with these wonderful coins by Café member, Sean...Great job!
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Well Mb, I've followed your posting about JJ's work from where it first started in a completely different thread. I've even taken some of the side turns and branches (jconstantine and the sticker thread) and watched all the videos of the performances - they look amazing. I was out here in the coins section of the café looking for some feedback and input to help me choose a source for some new gaffed coins (shells, flippers, etc.). I'm definitely a dollar coin guy and I bought a whole bunch of uncirculated proof Eisenhower's coins, which I'd like to supply to the right craftsman to get some much better looking gaffs than what I've previously purchased. I think the Eisenhower dollars are beautiful and prefer them over a Morgan or Walking dollar.

ANYWAY.. (I often digress) BUT before I could even begin my hunt for a talented coin-smith artisan, I run into your thread, Mb about the return of John Jurney - a very talented coin-smith artisan. Not one disparaging word has been said about John's work (JJ's Coin Coalition) or John himself (customer service and response) whether here in the café or out there in the real world wide web - nothing but high praise, big props, and lots of appreciation from everyone purchasing his work.

I've heard enough and... okay, I didn't really actually hear anything - I've READ enough (how's that?) to prompt me to leave this thread just long enough to place my own order for this set thru PayPal (it appears to be his preferred payment method). I received my order number of 436. Does that mean I'm the 436th person to order John's new coin set?

I'm fairly new to the performance part of magic (about three years performing, but a lifetime of loving it) and have never heard of the triple split coin set and didn't know what the letters DFST represented (mental note to Google it - no wait... AHA, I get it now - a "double face split triple"). I can't believe I haven't heard of this stuff before, since coins and money are kind of my thing. But HEY, you can't know something about everything until you know everything about something (huh?). The important thing is that I know now.

I will be anxiously awaiting my Coin Coalition set and look forward to some marathon practice sessions (love honing a move or sleight to perfection) and maybe some day looking even half as good as Sean's demo (great job, Sean). I will post more after I receive.

Thanks Mb for sharing and taking me on this journey to Jurney.
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Thanks JohnnyPD for your kind comments. The routine I showed is one I perform at tables regularly, but standing up rather than seated.

As an aside, I'm so impressed with this set that I will be showing it at my lectures in the UK (I have Johns permission of course), and producing a explanation video for the routine too.

Enjoy it buddy, it will become your new best friend!
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Well Mb, I've followed your posting about JJ's work from where it first started in a completely different thread. I've even taken some of the side turns and branches (jconstantine and the sticker thread) and watched all the videos of the performances - they look amazing. I was out here in the coins section of the café looking for some feedback and input to help me choose a source for some new gaffed coins (shells, flippers, etc.). I'm definitely a dollar coin guy and I bought a whole bunch of uncirculated proof Eisenhower's coins, which I'd like to supply to the right craftsman to get some much better looking gaffs than what I've previously purchased. I think the Eisenhower dollars are beautiful and prefer them over a Morgan or Walking dollar.

ANYWAY.. (I often digress) BUT before I could even begin my hunt for a talented coin-smith artisan, I run into your thread, Mb about the return of John Jurney - a very talented coin-smith artisan. Not one disparaging word has been said about John's work (JJ's Coin Coalition) or John himself (customer service and response) whether here in the café or out there in the real world wide web - nothing but high praise, big props, and lots of appreciation from everyone purchasing his work.

I've heard enough and... okay, I didn't really actually hear anything - I've READ enough (how's that?) to prompt me to leave this thread just long enough to place my own order for this set thru PayPal (it appears to be his preferred payment method). I received my order number of 436. Does that mean I'm the 436th person to order John's new coin set?

I'm fairly new to the performance part of magic (about three years performing, but a lifetime of loving it) and have never heard of the triple split coin set and didn't know what the letters DFST represented (mental note to Google it - no wait... AHA, I get it now - a "double face split triple"). I can't believe I haven't heard of this stuff before, since coins and money are kind of my thing. But HEY, you can't know something about everything until you know everything about something (huh?). The important thing is that I know now.

I will be anxiously awaiting my Coin Coalition set and look forward to some marathon practice sessions (love honing a move or sleight to perfection) and maybe some day looking even half as good as Sean's demo (great job, Sean). I will post more after I receive.

Thanks Mb for sharing and taking me on this journey to Jurney.


It is indeed my pleasure JPD and Welcome to the forum... Smile I'm so glad that you decided, upon great examination it seems, to give John's work a whirl. You won't be disappointed, as you rightly point out that no one else is...Not one broken piece of glass anywhere as to it. Smile

And you are learning this part of magic pretty steadily and coming to understand things more and more...We are happy to have you hopefully for a while in our corner of the art. And y'know, Ike's aren't as well admired as Morgans, but John has made them a bit more popular now in my mind, in this NEW set. I really like the way they look and feel. Smile But of course, he also has a Morgan option as well. Smile

And so yes, if you didn't know, well now you know as to the craftsmanship, quality and value as to John Jurney's work. Perhaps not one of the big names (yet), but definitely doing BIG things right now out there. I'm glad you decided to come along. Thanks for the kind comments and wonderfully refreshing post here...Let us know what you think of the work. Smile

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Well, I got my JJs Coin Coalition set last evening and it kept me busy for pretty much the rest of that night. I am more than pleased. It is just as has been described and more. I've purchased gaff coins from Roy Kueppers, Tango, and Johnson. One of my magic mentors has a really nice set of Morgans that I think might be Lassens. I just know he paid upwards of $300-$500 for his set, which were real nice cause I got to work with them a few minutes. I have to say that of all the coin gaffs I've encountered (bought, worked with, or had presented to me) this is the VERY BEST gaff coin set that is available anywhere at any price.

This is the first time that I've ever bought ANY trick, gaff, gimmick, or magic device of any kind that was $50 or more and I honestly felt like I got my money's worth AND more!

The only issue, the only complaint, the only critique that bears any mention has nothing to do with the coin set, but rather with the instructional videos provided. I'm sure John didn't want to treat his customers and peers as though they were children, by trying to relay Bobos Modern Coin Magic in full or in part, but some details are needed for magic toddlers like myself. I've been performing the art of magic for around three years, thus the toddler designation. Most of what John provides for instruction are actually performance videos that require some interpretation and de-construction. I can tell that John is quite the accomplished master of coins. His palming effort in the very beginning/opening of his routine (where he first brings out the coin) is imperceptible and flawless. It is so well hidden that I can only assume he's palming, based on the little bit I know of Bobo, but it's never mentioned in the "instructions" or in any of the material.

I'm sure I'll work up my own routine eventually, since the possibilities are endless with these coins. It just would be nice to have one detailed routine to help us toddlers get crawling right away.

Bottom line: Get this coin set, you won't regret it. I'm getting me a second set. They are that good and the best money I've spent on magic since... well, since I started purchasing magic. Be sure and practice your routine until you've got it near perfect and then practice a bit more. We don't want anyone flashing anything to civilians. My lady is my "practice crash dummy," which means she's usually the first to see a new effect and the first to see me screw it up but good (she's taken a vow of silence on such matters), but with these coins I'm not showing her ANYTHING until I can be as prepared and polished as John. It may be a few months, but then.... WHAM!

Thanks again Mb for sharing.
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I must post a retraction to my previous post about there being any missing video instruction (there is NOT anything missing). I emailed my concern to John and he kindly and quickly responded letting me know which video provided the detailed presentation I was looking to find (Cliff Notes video). I also realized why I didn't quite see the Cliff Notes as being that which I was seeking - this routine just has a whole lot of things going on in a comparably short period of time. John even offered to create a personal video just for me that would provide further details and instructions for any moves I might mention where I still needed help. How awesome is that? Thanks, John.

Now I've discovered what I truly needed to help me best prepare, practice, present, and perform the main routine for this coin set - it is that same video that I originally thought was missing along with one other small thing - a video player that allows for adjusting the playback speed. VLC Video Player is open source and the perfect tool to provide for adjustment of that playback speed needing adjusted. I reduced the speed on my VLC Player to 20% of the original, so 1 second of original playback now takes 5 seconds.

Again my apologies to John and anyone associated with this, for me finding fault where none existed. Dang, with this new revelation, I think JJ's Coin Coalition just might be perfectly The Best Trick of 2016 or 2017 or maybe even The Best Trick of the millennium.
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These things look great!
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Good to hear that you like the coin set JPD, and that you eventually found what you were looking for in it, that was really there all along. Smile Thanks again for all your good words about the set, and enjoy! Smile


Oh, and hey guys, y'know Magi-Fest is this week (1/26-28, Columbus, OH), and the word on the street is that John Jurney will be there in the flesh starting Thursday night, and he'll have his wonderful "Coin Coalition" with him if you want to see it. 😉 There'll be a lot of big names at Magi-Fest, there always is and it's always well worth it to get there if you can. I'm sure John will race the engine for you "Coin Coalition," if you like. 😊 It'll be good to meet the man in person behind such wonderful new coin craftsmanship.

Go and enjoy, and tell'em Mb sent'cha! 😉👍🏽
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The coin gaffs are good, but ,as a Chinese user, I must say the Chinese is weird.
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He's claiming they're Japanese coins, not Chinese ones...

I wish I could check them out ag Magi-Fest, perhaps I'll get to see them somewhere else sometime.
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He's claiming they're Japanese coins, not Chinese ones...

I wish I could check them out ag Magi-Fest, perhaps I'll get to see them somewhere else sometime.


I think he might be referring to the "Chinese" characters on the coins. Together they probably say something strange!

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Yes, I'm talking about those, too. In his demo video, he calls them "Japanese 10 Yen" coins - I'm guessing to distinguish them from the more typical "Chinese" coins that have a hole in them.

That would make them Japanese characters, not Chinese characters. I wouldn't expect them to say anything significant (or real), but I also wouldn't be surprised if John picked them because they did - that seems like the kind of attention to detail he'd include.

Sadly, I know neither Japanese or Chinese, so I can't say either way...
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I somehow doubt the average spectator would know the difference between Chinese and Japanese characters especially as the coins are not given out for the spectator to look at.
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I somehow doubt the average spectator would know the difference between Chinese and Japanese characters especially as the coins are not given out for the spectator to look at.


Very true buddy!
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Certainly. The audience will likely believe they're from wherever country you say they're from.

The quoted post is a response to FrankHorn, who claimed the Chinese was weird, to which I replied that they weren't *meant* to be Chinese, they're meant to be Japanese...
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Certainly. The audience will likely believe they're from wherever country you say they're from.

The quoted post is a response to FrankHorn, who claimed the Chinese was weird, to which I replied that they weren't *meant* to be Chinese, they're meant to be Japanese...



Exactly!

And I agree, it all doesn't matter much if at all to spectators. Smile

*On another note, John had a blast just recently showing his Coin Coalition to people while at Magi-Fest. Smile
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I actually did a Google translate on the Japanese characters, and they said, "King Kong vs. Godzilla". Didn't know John was a fan of the big fella!

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Man, that's funny. Smile

Not sure John is a fan of these big fellas (though I am), Smile but I do know he creates some BIG magic with his coin sets. Smile

I'm hearing that a lot of interest was shown in his work, by the big, small, and all. Smile

The word is getting around as to such high quality work.
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Hi everyone, wanted to add myself to the list of people who are very happy with this set and my thanks to MB for making me aware of John's work. I even accidentally put my order in twice and when I alerted John of my mistake he acted on it straight away and issued me with a refund on the second purchase. Great customer service! I'm really enjoying the possibilities with this set. Here's a work in progress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=deskto......o6xh96LQ
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Hi everyone, wanted to add myself to the list of people who are very happy with this set and my thanks to MB for making me aware of John's work. I even accidentally put my order in twice and when I alerted John of my mistake he acted on it straight away and issued me with a refund on the second purchase. Great customer service! I'm really enjoying the possibilities with this set. Here's a work in progress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=deskto......o6xh96LQ


Fantastic routine, I really liked the patter and switch-ups! It reminded me a bit of Gadabout coins, which I've always enjoyed. A couple of thoughts/observations:

1) Careful when you flip the set in the beginning - it doesn't sound like a normal coin, and some people might notice. I try to avoid flipping gaffs whenever possible. If you're going to go into your pocket immediately, why not flip a real one instead?

2) Watch your angles: At 0:21, you flashed badly, which is particularly noticable because you have a coin in the same hand! I'm not even sure why it was there, because you immediately went back into your pocket again.

3) I liked the flip to copper coins at the end, but it felt strange when your patter earlier was that you "need to have two of the same coin" (I loved that line/timing). So they were still the same coin, and you could have done the trick. I'd focus on them needing to be silver earlier.

But again, just a few minor suggestions - overall great. Smile
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