Not got mine yet either Jamie, last thing I had was from Backerkit asking for a response but that seemed to be for the ebook not the cards?!

Mine arrived today in the UK

As did mine. Not got home yet but I received a message saying they'd been delivered!

Yes mine here today as well!

Ok got them all and I've been playing with them a bit. They're really quite lovely - and generally do exactly what they're meant to. I have found a problem with some cards sometimes interfering with others when rotated 180 degrees in the deck.

And unfortunately they really don't faro well at all. That's a massive shame.

But overall, very happy with these - the concept is just great.

Mine are not perfectly printed. The came essentially stuck together in their cellophane wrap, and there's some back-to-front bleed from card to card.

I haven't really gotten into figuring out the system yet.

Not seeing any of that, however due to some imprecise printing the rotation of the cards do matter sometimes regarding the edge work. I've only opened one of my decks so far - I hope it's a one-off.

Yours sound really broken though; real shame.

While these don't faro well for me I really like the cards, being able to locate any card without spreading through the deck has so many uses. So far everyone I have showed has loved this deck

I was thinking of buying a couple of bricks. But due to them not Faroing too well and that there may be other issues, I might reduce the order somewhat.

I'm glad I'm not alone with the faroing issue. I thought it was mostly due to the fact that I'm not entirely proficient at faroing yet but at least I know that the cards had something to do with it being a little harder to do so than usual.

Can't wait to have the whole booklet and the display case later on

[quote]On May 12, 2017, jbadman wrote:

And unfortunately they really don't faro well at all. That's a massive shame.

Hi!
They actually do Jamie! I've had mine for over a week now and you have to "work" them for a little while before being able to faro them with ease (it was a concern of mine at first too). It's, I suppose, due to their "glassy" edges, not unlike what LPCC's decks are well known for. They're also a lot easier to faro face up (again, not unlike LPCC's cards).

I've had the same issue with the latest Butterfly prototype deck which Ondrej very kindly sent me a few months ago and, believe me, after having been "worked/broken" for a few hours they handled like a dream.

J.

While it is nice to know that these faro well after some time, I really wish all such cards for magicians were traditionally cut. Traditionally cut cards like the Richard Turner Gold standard bikes or the 52kards Mint deck faro amazingly well right out of the box.
I had problems with Steve Gore's GPS deck as well. Tried to faro and ended up damaging the marks. Sometimes non traditionally cut decks faro fine face up. But some are really bad no matter how much work you put in.
Anyway, I received my Butterfly decks sometime back. Will play with them soon. I am quite excited about the possibilities they offer.

I have just started to use mine and they faro without any difficulty. It just takes a few faros to break them in
These are fantastic and I cannot see any of the problems you mention


Paul

Can you still buy these from anywhere I can't seem to find a place that sells them. The Indi site doesn't seem to have a purchase option.

Magically

Aus

https://jpplayingcards.co.uk/index.php?r......_id=1218 they just restocked.

This is there first stock!

Dr Rob

Now available and in stock from http://jpplayingcards.co.uk/Butterfly-Pl......h=butter

Hi I have ordered mine from J P Cards and it says I should be able to access the PDF but I cannot find this anywhere can someone point me in the right direction please.

Many thanks
Dr Rob

I got mine but am having problems seeing the markings.
Any hints as to Bevel or holding the cards?

magiclee

Still can't get over this deck - carry it with me wherever I go

http://www.kardify.com/2017/05/card-gear......oxy.html