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On Jan 23, 2017, tommy wrote:
If I saw something impossible occur, then it must be an illusion because the impossible does not exist in reality and that is the answer.



yes, but that does make it magic. Besides, you "perceived" something interpreted as impossible. "Seeing" is only part of that. Much more comes from expectations, knowledge and degrees of certainty.
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We can only hope that our audience never completely runs away with the fairies. Smile
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I think one of our skills as magicians is the proper framing of what the audience sees. We can frame it as science, witchcraft or magic among many other things. I believe our goal is in framing things that could be interpreted many ways to create the illusion of magic. This is wholly a thing that occurs in the spectators mind.
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Illusions happen in the left hemisphere of the mind only. That left side which allows for objective rationalization. We dress up our magic with entertainment which happens in the right hemisphere of the mind. That right side which does not allow for objective rationalization. An equal proportion of magic and entertainment gives our audience whole brain satisfaction. In the entertainment we offer fiction, then we apparently show that fiction to be fact, by way of distorting the facts. Fiction cannot possibly be fact and so therein lies their dilemma.

The charlatan offers facts and shows them as facts and so it is to his audience that the charlatan actually speaks to the dead. So the magic of the charlatan happens in the left hemisphere of the mind only.


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I have to look it up, but Houdini said something to the effect..
It is not what people see but what they think they see.
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THAT may be where I first heard that remark, or a reasonable "facsimile"!
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It is funny but I like magic when it drives me out of my mind. That magic moment, when one feels like one has lost control of one’s mental faculties; when there it is but it cannot be!
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I don't know who said it first, but the one who said it shortest was Tony 'Doc' Shiels:

ALL magic is mental.
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Good one, TStone~!

I dropped out of this thread when tommy started talking about magic happening "in the heart"! As far as I know, the heart is a MUSCLE! The heart pumps blood!

I may be 'crazy', but, I am not stupid!

I NEVER claimed originality for that simple statement (magic happens in the mind).

I'm a retired 50 year professional, but I have never claimed, or even implied that I was a "legend". (See tommy's post, above)I do have a fairly high IQ, but, I don't flaunt that.
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Metaphor (n.) Look up metaphor at Dictionary.com

late 15c., from Middle French metaphore (Old French metafore, 13c.), and directly from Latin metaphora, from Greek metaphora "a transfer," especially of the sense of one word to a different word, literally "a carrying over," from metapherein "transfer, carry over; change, alter; to use a word in a strange sense," from meta "over, across" (see meta-) + pherein "to carry, bear" (see phoresy).
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Peek-a-boo

everybody really vanishes when the cloth goes up but it's nice to pretend they're just hidden. shhh - a secret.
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If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.

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