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SleepyMagic Inner circle Hopefully I'll pass my exams with 1646 Posts |
Which effects did you purchase or learn, let's say before 2012, which you still perform to this day?
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Sleepy!
The EFFECT is what the spectator(s) perceive. An EFFECT cannot be purchased, or, learned. A TRICK cannot be purchased either. A TRICK, like music, only "exists" while it is being performed. (Stop dragging the rosined horsehair over the taut catgut, and, the music stops, too!) You CAN buy a PROP, or a SECRET, with which you can PERFORM a TRICK. If you PERFORM the TRICK well, WITH A GOOD PRESENTATION, you may ENTERTAIN the spectator(s). >>>MAGIC IS NOT INHERENTLY ENTERTAINING.<<< Most of the TRICKS that I PERFORMED, using the PROP(S) and/or SECRETS, which I BOUGHT or LEARNED, in the late '40s or early '50s, are still used for occasional performances, although, I've been retired since 2008.
SNEAKY, UNDERHANDED, DEVIOUS,& SURREPTITIOUS ITINERANT MOUNTEBANK
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5925 Posts |
I very much disagree, Dick. An effect is absolutely learned. One learns how to create that event for your audience. (Or doesn't I guess based on some I have seen)
And while one can only learn that through experience, one can buy knowledge and guidance which will greatly accelerate that learning. And yes, buying the props and manuscripts does not instantly grant you access to an effect. It takes practice, rehearsal, and experience. All that said, I would say to Sleepy, the effects we retain as workers for decades are as varied as the types of people who undertake magic. If I knew your intention in posting I could better answer your question. |
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
You are welcome to disagree. (It's a free country.)
SNEAKY, UNDERHANDED, DEVIOUS,& SURREPTITIOUS ITINERANT MOUNTEBANK
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10587 Posts |
2012, an oldie? Most would consider that current.
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SleepyMagic Inner circle Hopefully I'll pass my exams with 1646 Posts |
Thanks for all the comments guys, and when I say effects ,I mean props and secrets.
I also thought 2012 would be quite current but seeing as many people don't really remember magic products from that long ago, it thought the 5 year gap was enough! Sleepy |
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imgic Inner circle Moved back to Midwest to see 1337 Posts |
I learned the cut and restored rope over 40 years ago. Still doing it...still refining it. Latest improvement is using a tin snips instead of scissors. Clean easy cuts and more impressive appearance. Learned it at Pop Hayden's lecture.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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mindmagic Inner circle London 1740 Posts |
I learnt Hunter's Impossible Knot in the mid-Sixties (from Hugard's Modern Magic Manual). It's still my party piece.
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Kleberdexter New user Brazil 69 Posts |
Im very new to magic. I started reading tarbell course and I found a lot of props that some guys sells, that are based in tarbell lessons.
Some times are just variations or adaptations. Sorry if I had made a stupid comment. |
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ssucahyo Inner circle 1954 Posts |
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On Feb 6, 2017, Kleberdexter wrote: You made great comment. You are in the right way to learn magic. It s correct many new invention based on classic effect. |
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dunraven Regular user Austin, TX 124 Posts |
Top 3.
1. Magic coloring book for kid's parties (and homemade disappearing crayons). It's amazing how this lands EVERY time. 2. Homemade "appearing" picture in frame (I think from Blackstone book?). You cover an empty picture frame at the beginning of your routine and then uncover at end to reveal a picture, card etc. I most recently incorporated this with Sven pad predictions. I use 2 Sven pads with a related topic but the choices don't seem to go together and then, you guessed it, a picture incorporating both items appears in the frame after some mindreading. Going over very well. 3. Linking rings |
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Nighthawk New user 73 Posts |
I never preformed this effect but I am looking to buy the old golf ball in the tiny briefcase trick as I have the tiny briefcase. Can anyone tell me where I can buy the handling for this effect? I know that the briefcase used is not gimmicked; hence I am only looking to purchase the handling etc.
Any assistance would be appreciated. |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I believe you are referring to Marc DeSouza's steel ball bearing from miniature brief case. I think you are about 30 years to late, Marc sold this at his lectures, anyway that is where I purchased this effect.
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Wizard of Oz Inner circle Most people wish I didn't have 5150 Posts |
Tenyo made a version, but it is gimmicked to the hilt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jphpkypAuc4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_0BYlyMHmk This one isn't as toyish looking: https://www.magictricks.com/golf-ball-from-case.html I don't know about the non-gimmicked handling.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
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J M Talbot Inner circle 3055 Posts |
Bill is right, Marc DeSouza along with Paul Green published a little booklet called "A Briefcase For Conjuring". Contained several ideas using the minature brief case, including producing a steel ball bearing or golf ball. The case was not gimmicked. They sold the booklet with a case, steel ball bearing and a pair of minature hand cuffs.
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
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On Jan 22, 2017, Tom Cutts wrote: I have a few minutes today, so, I'll address your comments. I define "EFFECT", as "that which the spectator(s) PERCEIVE, after the magician has PERFORMED a TRICK. As I said, it's a free country. But opinions are not necessarily facts.
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5925 Posts |
Dick, I wasn't arguing the definition of "effect", though I see that I wasn't as clear as I may have wished. So to be more clear, "the event" I wrote about is the same "perception" you wrote about. I see my choice of wording above could be confused as talking about the event of the props in the performer's hands. That is not the event I am talking about.
I just make the point that indeed one does learn to create these "events" or "perceptions" which our audiences have. |
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Sorry! I was more abrupt than necessary.
Yes. A good PRESENTATION, which one can learn, definitely STRENGTHENS the EFFECT which the spectator(s) perceives, and, therefore contributes to the ENTERTAINMENT factor. Many, if not most, of the exposures on Yoo Toob, are "demonstrations", not presentations. The viewer can learn WHAT to do, but, IMO, does not learn HOW to do it. Almost everything that I perform in my program has been ineptly "done" on YT! I'm retired, but, occasionally When I perform, PRESENTATION still makes the show ENTERTAINING.
SNEAKY, UNDERHANDED, DEVIOUS,& SURREPTITIOUS ITINERANT MOUNTEBANK
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Nothing but the family deck.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
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On Feb 5, 2017, Kleberdexter wrote: I'm not a great magician, but I think you made a great comment. I was stunned to find large portions of Tarbell in other magic books. Magic Digest has the popcorn box, I thought it was unique to that book until I saw it in Tarbell. "Spooky Magic" has most of the effects using glow in the dark paint.
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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