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Matti Kaki
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I need a strong Magnetic Euro coin. Not meaning shimmed or one attracted to a magnet but an Euro coin having a strong magnet inside. I purchased Tango 1 Euro coin but it is so weak that it hardly can hold itself when place against a magnetic coin, like British 10p.

1 and 2 Euro coins have a center piece which is possible to split off. Has anybody made a magnet coin by machining the center piece? You could possibly saw the center through so that you have both heads and tails side of the center. Then glueing a strong neodymium magnet between them.

Any ideas or comments? Tango coins are usually very nice for the price if the highest level of finishing is not needed, but this was very bad one. There are propably very strong Euro coins but I believe that the prices are too high for me.
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Magnetic 50 Cent Euro Coin (Super Strong) by KREIS:
http://www.seomagic-usa.com/catalog/prod......s_id/781



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Looks quite promising. When buying from the States I have to pay 24% taxes (also for shipping) and one coin would cost me 81 USD with untracked shipping which is slightly unpleasant idea. Tracked shipping is 48 USD. I need two, so it would cost me 180 USD. Also it's not 1 or 2 euro coin which I prefer.
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Contact Joe Mogar. He handles a good bit by Kreis and may be able to get one here cheaper.
http://www.joemogar.com/
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I browsed Joemogar yesterday admiring his Morgans. I know that they are really fine coins. Unfortunately it looks that he doesn't stock Euro coins. The postage is reasonable 20 USD and I'm sure I'll some day do other business with him.
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Matti Kaki, being you are money and shipping conscience. Why not get the coins in your country from a magic dealer.

I am sure Kreis coins would be available there or a dealer can get the coin in for you.

currency exchange - $1.00 = 0.93 Euro
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I purchased this Tango from a Finnish dealer. This was the only option they have. Kreis coins are probably not available in Finland but sure I can ask in magicians FB-group if somebody knows. This dealer (Markku Purho) is the best one and the only having decent stock and reasonable prices. He has two tricks from Kreis; Micro Psychic Pro and Sixth Sense 2.5. Those aren't what I'm looking for. He has Strong 2 euro Tango coin on sale but it's out of stock.

The price is not the only aspect. I want to make my gimmicks myself. I've always been interested in building everything at my home shop and when I started magic in the 60's, there was no magic shops here and you had to make almost everything yourself. So this is a kind of a hobby to do everything with my hands, especially now when I'm retired.
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I think one of the confusing points here is that while the thread is titled "DIY Magnet coin", your first post suggests nothing about wanting to make it yourself - you ask about Tango and other manufacturers, and this is the first time you've spoken about making it yourself. Which are you trying to do?

If you have the tools in your workshop, it's definitely doable - shave off a face, make a hole for a thin magnet (find the magnet first!) repeat with a new coin for the other half. Glue two halves together (with the magnet inside) and you're done.

Of course, there's a lot more nuance/work that goes in to do it well, and it might take a bunch of tries to get right - which could cost you more than buying one. And if you want all the extra details - milling, sounds, thickness, etc. it'll take a lot of extra practice on top of that.

But it all hinges on having the right tools - if you don't have a lathe, it's not worth buying them just for this...
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Tonsofquestions; Yes, you're right. I asked if anybody has done this by removing the center piece of euro coin, but it's not very obvious. I wrote too much irrelevant and did not focus the main thing.

Lathe is almost the only tool I don't have. Your idea looks nice. It's different from what I thought but you can use bigger magnet. The 1 Euro coin is approx. 2 mm thick so you could insert 1 mm magnet. In my idea I can use 15 mm magnet but if done using yours I could insert 20 mm one, which ofcourse is much better. As I told, the cost-effectiveness is not the point but to make a good gimmick.
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I was not aware you could pull out the center piece of a euro coin - that's very surprising to me. I'd expect it to cause a lot of damage to the ring or center piece, (so might take 2 coins to create), and would be similarly difficult to put back together.

Sawing the coin in half (across the face) is possible, but would result in a similar problem to flippers - you need to do it *very* well, or else you'll see a line on the coin. Getting this right on a flipper is easier, because the two parts can move, and are often hidden. Getting it right on a coin that you're putting back together seems like it would be tougher. And you'd still have to find a way to make space for the magnet inside, which would be very small - 1mm manets aren't too strong.

I think a better idea might be to take a coin with a pattern that has a circle, and just drill that out/insert a magnet of the right size. But again, that will look a bit off. There's a reason all the manufacturers do it from the side - it masks the line/other changes far more strongly.


Also, reading back, the other problem was that you continued to respond to people rather than redirecting them to the DIY.
And speaking of Joe Mogar, while he might not have any euro coins on his website, I bet he could make some, so it might be worth emailing him, anyway.
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I have two 50 cent euro coins and they work with a 3 cm (1,17 inch) of wood (kreis) . They work quite well.
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Well you might be surprised what you can do by simply gluing a ma----t to one side of a coin.
this also solves alignment problems, you always know which side matches the receiving surface.
you can hide the apparatus effectively with your thumb if it is small enough, ... just sayin...
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A lathe is always a great investment. You could probably find a used one at a reasonable price. Check to see if there are any turning clubs in your area. Those folks are usually very friendly and helpful.

Lathes are one of the most versatile tools you can buy. A wood lathe can do metal turning, so long as you are turning non-ferris metals, just be sure to use a slow speed and resharpen often. Wood lathes are also much less expensive than their metal turning counterparts.

A word of warning - turning is an addictive tool. In an old book on the subject, the author stated that "wood turners make great husbands, for their wives always know where they are..."

One of the wonderful things about a lathe is the fact that you can start with a rough piece of wood and an hour or so later, you are removing a finished piece (depending upon your experience and the project).
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Kreis are super strong.
And would be the way to go if possible.
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