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Tarik Flash
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Sorry if I came across a bit harsh on the gold version of the gift . I personally preferred the black purely my own choice as I don't want to over emphasis it until I close my set . I also like the idea of touching it in as necessary with a sharpie . So I would like to take back my comments about it being tacky as both boxes are equally fantastically made and the mechanics are pure genious . I think I just got out of the wrong side of the bed ( again ) yesterday . Good magic to all Tarik 😊
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ATTENTION!

I know I have said this before but if you have requested to join the Facebook group, you MUST show a screenshot of proof of ownership. I have almost 90 people who are pending who haven't replied to my FB message requesting proof. CHECK YOUR FB MESSAGES and reply back. Thank you!

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One of the best purchases of the past few years. The possibilities are endless. The black box looks so innocent. I use a bow wrapped around the box, which adds to the impossibility and eliminates the possibility that you somehow secretly slipped the paper into the box right in front of their eyes (it's funny how spectators give us more credit than we deserve sometimes).
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On Feb 23, 2017, Not Steve Brooks wrote:
One of the best purchases of the past few years. The possibilities are endless. The black box looks so innocent. I use a bow wrapped around the box, which adds to the impossibility and eliminates the possibility that you somehow secretly slipped the paper into the box right in front of their eyes (it's funny how spectators give us more credit than we deserve sometimes).


Out of interest do you start with cards in the The Gift box then un tie the whole thing just to take out the cards and re tie the bow ? Or do you approach the spectators with bow tied and never touching the box until the end reveal ie you just take the cards from your pocket ? Best wishes Tarik 😊
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Hi Tarik:

You are correct - the bow is tied tightly around the box from the beginning, and the deck of cards is never in the box. It's a beautiful presentation. I never liked the idea of opening the box before the big finish - sort of anti-climatic in my view. I love to keep them guessing until the very end - "What's in the box?"
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I agree with your point about not opening the box until the finish.
However, one aspect of this kind of bothers me and that is that the spectators "gift" at the end turns out to be a small folded piece of paper of which you could fit half a dozen in a matchbox yet alone a box of this size.
So even though I like the idea of a ribbon and not opening the box until the end, I also like removing one or two objects (which pretty much fill the box) from the box first and explaining that their gift will remain a secret for now. This helps justify the size of the box and also gives them an idea that their gift must be pretty small.

Not saying that is a better way as I am still truly undecided.
I have yet to experiment with seeing if the box could operate properly with some other small object inside of it. But I'm thinking that then you could actually have a small trinket gift for them along with the prediction. If the gift could even tie in with the prediction then that would be even better. But I haven't gotten that far along yet.
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Good point, videoman.

I suppose there's no perfect solution, as each presentation has its pros and cons. I even thought about wrapping the box with wrapping paper for special occasions, with a bow on top! I can't even begin to imagine how a spectator could even begin to try and figure out how this trick works. Along with Ice Qube, this is one of the most impossible tricks I've bought in a long time. And the presentation options are endless!
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Ok all understood and valid points but you certainly would de ribbon remove the cards and re ribbon ? I do
Like the idea of doing the mechanics with the ribbon on though as it somehow seems to sell the Impossilibilty premise . Best wishes Tarik 😊
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Hi guys,

I really like the idea from Not Steve Brooks as this way ist is a amazing, because noboy knows what is inside.
Which is much better for mentalism.

The mentaslism effect is: there is one perfect prediction
The magic effect is: there is a perfect prediction in a formerly empty box. The apperance of the prediction is a cool effect but it does shift attention form a perfect prediction as a mind feat to the question: How did the billet get into the box. There is a magic trick involved ... and so on. I think you get my thinking.

Thanks
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On Feb 24, 2017, Argon wrote:

The magic effect is: there is a perfect prediction in a formerly empty box.



I don't think the 'magic' effect is the prefered way [of many/any people] to do this

I originally asked if that was the effect [of the gift] when it was first announced - as that would have been of no interest to me

I would think at least 99% of people will be doing this as a prediction and not an apperance effect

Also the creator has said that is how 'it should' be done

To do so otherwise is to call into question whether there is some trick box in effect here... rather than an amazing prediction - 'how did you know/influence me to choose that'
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Understood just wondered why Titanus makes such a big deal of shaking the box in the demo as if something has magically arrived ?
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On Feb 24, 2017, Tarik Flash wrote:
Understood just wondered why Titanus makes such a big deal of shaking the box in the demo as if something has magically arrived ?


Well... [my Gift isn't working - yet - still waiting on something special] - but I would guess the shake might help [can't say more]

And the idea is, 'listen - there has always been this one piece of paper in here... but you open the box to see what it is'

I don't think it's a - 'this was empty, now listen there is something magically appeared inside the box'
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The shake is used as you say "Remember I said there was something else in the box at the beginning? [gently shake box briefly]. I think you can hear it. Here you take the box and open it..." etc etc
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Understood completely I realise the premise and that's the way I will use it alway I just wanted to emphasis the possibilities with this great utility item , best wishes Tarik 😊
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The size of the box vs. the size of the paper in the box doesn't bother me at all. It kind of reminds of those old game shows where you could choose a prize from several boxes. Sometimes the largest box had the smallest prize.
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Routining could eliminate the issue of size discrepancy between the box and it's contents.

Add another layer of mystery, by suggesting at the start, that ANYTHING could be in the box.

As your routine progresses, make your audience WANT the contents of the box to be a prediction......

This should be fairly simple to do, it just requires some thought, depending on what, exactly, you;ll be using the box for.

Still waiting to join the FB group.....
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On Feb 23, 2017, Angelo Carbone wrote:

100% agree videoman. A box with more than four sides will result in smaller prediction papers.


I humbly differ with the above. The size of prediction paper can remain the same provided the folded RECTANGULAR prediction paper is loaded vertically (i.e length wise) instead of horizontally (i.e. width wise) - Hope this makes some sense Smile. This will also make the size of each panel much smaller (i.e. width wise).

As I mentioned these are just MY thoughts which I try and share over here - Good if one likes it and if not, no problems. Smile Smile

I feel sharing of ideas/thoughts should be taken in the right spirit but of late I see that's not always the case.

Thank you and continue please . . . . Smile

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Alas Ustadd they can't be vertical because of a technical and gravity aspect. Cheers though.
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Ustadd, make up a rough prototype incorporating your ideas and see if it flies.
Just keep in mind that the major llimiting factor is not length or width but depth.
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I just got mine! It looks rather good except that one corner of the bottom of the box is slightly peeled off. Either the glue isn't strong enough or maybe it's due to the plane ride. I'm assuming mine is a rare case, so I'll let it slide. Everything else functioned fine as soon as I tried. I didn't even need to use the tips provided.

I have some comments in reply to the comments above about using it as an appearance rather than a prediction. I think using it as a prediction is preferable as you do not want to draw attention to it as a Gimmick. At least in my experience, if people know the item is a gimmick, then their reaction would be, "Cool, gimmick. He waited for me to select a card and put the paper into the gimmick box." Using it as a prediction however gets, "How on earth did he predict my card?"

My ideal routine would be to do a !@#$e such as using svenpad. Could be a place, person, cartoon character, etc. Have this already in the box. For example, imagine a spongebob keychain or a superman miniature in the box. Then they pick a card while imagining they are that the place, or with the person. Then their wishes come true in the gift. They untie the ribbon, open the box and find the pic of the place, a figure/keychain and a piece of paper which predicts picking the card. This would also justify the space in the box.
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Can anyone confirm where these boxes are being made? Are they being made in the US or the UK?
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I want mine to be made in China.
The "made in China" sticker helps for you know what ...

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Angelo what a beautiful crafted piece you came up with!

Thank you
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On Feb 25, 2017, Jean-Luc.R. wrote:
I want mine to be made in China.
The "made in China" sticker helps for you know what ...


as China is the Far East (to us westerners) and 'orientation' etymologically means to face East very appropriate!
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My ideal routine would be to do a !@#$e such as using svenpad. Could be a place, person, cartoon character, etc. Have this already in the box. For example, imagine a spongebob keychain or a superman miniature in the box. Then they pick a card while imagining they are that the place, or with the person. Then their wishes come true in the gift. They untie the ribbon, open the box and find the pic of the place, a figure/keychain and a piece of paper which predicts picking the card. This would also justify the space in the box.


FYI, the post-it note SvenPad fits perfectly inside the box along with a deck of cards and even a figure/keychain as long as it isn't too large.
Justifies the box and keeps everything self-contained.
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