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Christoph New user Nuremberg, Germany 81 Posts |
Hey guys,
just a quick question...what's the best Card Memory routine besides Bob's version? Any hints would be appreciated. Cheers, Chris
Christoph
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WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts |
What is it you want to display?
The "best" is going to be different for each performer. Personally I haven't really seen a card memory routine that did it for me, but I'm working on it myself.
Christopher
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Christoph New user Nuremberg, Germany 81 Posts |
Thanks for your reply...
Right now, I am actually scanning the market for routines and techniques to find the best to fit my character. Therefore I would like to get as much Information on this topic as possible...
Christoph
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bevbevvybev Inner circle UK 2672 Posts |
If you know a stack then you're ready to go. Bob's is great as it's so theatrical and visual, so strong you can end a show with it.
So my question is, in what situation do you think you want to perform this feat? |
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WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts |
I get that.
Jamie D Grant has Route 52, and I've heard good things about that. Mnemonica, obviously. Colin Cloud has one in Divine. Those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head at the moment.
Christopher
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the Sponge Inner circle Atlanta 2771 Posts |
Patrick Redford
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WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts |
Is that in Applesauce?
Christopher
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Mr. Woolery Inner circle Fairbanks, AK 2149 Posts |
I have not seen all or even most on the market, but the method Mark Elsdon uses on The Meridian Techniqur is really good. It allows for a lot more than two people to participate and for the cards to be legitimately shuffled before you start. As a whole deck. The principles are all pretty well known, borrowing from Cassidy and Richardson mostly, but the result is really good. It was my favorite part of that DVD set.
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the Sponge Inner circle Atlanta 2771 Posts |
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On Feb 8, 2017, WitchDocChris wrote: Looks like there is one in Applesauce. I have seen one in his other works. And I swear he just put out something of just this. s |
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WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts |
I think that's actually the one I was thinking of when I said Colin Cloud - though Colin does have a memorized card routine as well.
Christopher
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January Veteran user 390 Posts |
I second Elsdon, which is really just a slight revision of Cassidy. If you post this downstairs, you could perhaps be a little more specific about your ideal specifications for the effect, and/or we could be a little more specific about the differences of the effects. Cassidy's uses a completely normal deck, which I like, and the method can be even more concealed by a few handling tips I've developed. I actually still think Cassidy's version is a little easier than Elsdon's reworking with principles from Richardson, but to each his own.
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Marc O Special user The Netherlands 755 Posts |
Looch' s Intuitive Aii, Michael Clark's Memory Shuffle and since of today Christoper Rawlin's Pseudo are all very high on my list of card memory routines.
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Nestor D Special user France (Paris) 830 Posts |
Bob Cassidy set the reference (especialy for the presentation), Barry Richardson has several good methods for the effect (interesting if you want to minimise the memory work), Michael Weber has also a take on it (similar to Barry Richardson's solution).
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MagicalEducator Veteran user 369 Posts |
I'm partial to the Michael Weber version which he taught in his lectures a few years back. Another option I sometime use for a different piece (more magicky) is using M*e*on*ca. I'm not a fan of systems such as Route 52, etc. as our audiences don't know the difference and these "system" aren't completely reliable. I've seen the developers of these systems encounter problems in performance and fail miserably. What's your out if you encounter any difficulty? Do it again? If people are paying money to see you perform then any miss/problem needs to be a planned adlib or something that can be easily and quickly resolved.
jeff
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ekgdoc Regular user 110 Posts |
Here is a performance of Storm by Patrick Redford that fits the bill:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nif2ydprQK0 David M. |
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Looch Inner circle Off by 3362 Posts |
For close up I love my 'Intuitive Aii' routine from SAD, however for stage, I genuinely believe THE best routine of this kind is Barrie Richardson's Quartet
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Christopher_Rawlins Special user North West, England. 518 Posts |
Marc, thanks for the kind mention.
I'm glad you are enjoying PSEUDO. Chris
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Nat_lawson Regular user 106 Posts |
Luke Jermay has one called 49 seconds
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January Veteran user 390 Posts |
The lovely performance above by Patrick Redford reminded me a bit of Derren Brown's deck memorization, from his show "Trick of the Mind."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJi1TBzuzhs The overall feel (as well as a brief shot that cuts away quickly), leads me to believe that the method is similar to that of his effect "Plerophoria" from Pure Effect, and also taught on his International Magic Lecture DVD. Plerophoria isn't presented as card memory but rather clairvoyance, but it could easily be sold as card memory as well. Both Redford and Brown's performances show a different spin on card memory (though I'm fairly certain they employ radically different methods) that is quite interesting to me. Redford's also implanted a lot of false memories that amplified the effect a lot. I find he's especially good at that with his card routines. Lovely. |
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Nat_lawson Regular user 106 Posts |
I honestly believe that memory effects are some of the most fun and useful demonstrations that you can give. If you can do a solid memory effect, you suddenly double your credibility with everything you are saying or trying to sell.
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