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Anatole Inner circle 1912 Posts |
I know this is going to sound a little strange, but bear with me.
I'm looking for a way to take a 4-inch diameter paper hat coil and sort of re-wind it so that it is not as tightly wound and is a slightly smaller diameter. In the past I have taped the outside end of the coil, taped that end to a pencil, and laboriously re-wound it around the pencil to a smaller, somewhat looser 3-inch diameter coil. Then I would push the center of the coil out into a cone shape. The cone shape could then be put into my Fabjance Alumascreen. I prepared two hat coils that way so that I could start the Alumascreen routine by showing it empty and then 1) produce the first paper coil, 2) produce three 18-inch solid-colored Rice silks, two 36-inch Rice art silks, and a 25-foot Rice streamer. This link will take you to a picture of the streamer production on the IBM Ring 103 facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/338764602812514......&theater I thought maybe a Klamm Magic aluminum coil winder would make it at least a little easier to rewind a 4-inch paper coil to the right diamter, but I don't have one of those an haven't found one on any used magic sites. My mentor Earl Edwards devised a jerry-rigged system of two empty reel-to-reel tape reels to rewind the paper coils to fit into a Grant Chink Can, but I can't quite picture in my mind any more exactly how he built it. He did have a hand crank that would allow him to wind the coils quickly. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
----- Sonny Narvaez
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Just go buy one of those small personal hand battery operated hand fans. The ones with the propellers. Pull off the propellers and hub. Take a dowel stick and cut off the width of the streamer. Now drill a hole in the center, and push it on the stem from the motor. Use something like JB Weld to keep it stuck on.
Now wrap a few turns of the coil, and then push the switch to on. It will take up your streamer. You could if you want put walls on each side of the piece of dowel being you want to wind 3" in diameter. |
Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
My dear old friend, the late George Johnstone, wrote a column in the now defunct "new TOPS" magazine, published by Abbott's Magic, years ago. He would often have a "sub section" of his column that he called: "Thoughts while rewinding the hat coils". Magicians used to "kid" about the magician who wasn't getting much work, and to save money, would rewind the used hat coils!
Earl must have developed that winder, after I left Norfolk in the spring of '55. It does sound like something that Earl would do! Gen Grant had brought out the "Chink Cans", in the late '40s or early '50s. It was a neat, "dry" rice bowls, and, a fooler, too. I well remember Earl doing it, often. (Earl and I had "developed" an act ("Kayton & Noel") that we would do, together, at Ring 103 meetings, and Earl would produce a 6' Dragon silk, from the Chink Cans.) For those who came in late, hat coils were "born" when some magician (in the '20s?) realized that the stock brokers "ticker tapes" could be a nice production item. I used them for years, in my Merv Taylor TAMBOR. (always got applause!) Due to their size and shape, they were easily loaded into a hat. Hat coils cost $.25 back then! Now, they're a dollar. Bob McAllister developed a practical and easy handling for loading one in a sheet of newspaper. (No "cans" or tambourine rings to carry! I once "found" a bunch of coils that were about 10" in diameter! --My arm got tired, jerking them out of the paper with a LONG "wand"!! I remember an article in the old "Conjuror's Magazine" in the '40s. A hat coil could be "reshaped" (like the "cone" you mention, Sonny) and fit into a P&L Rice Bowl. The Herman Hanson Rice Bowls, used a coil, and spring flowers (no water). Percy Abbott found some cheap metal "bowls" and sold, a knock off of Hanson's ideas. ("The Spurting Rice Bowls" I still have a set!) End of "nostalgia musings"!
SNEAKY, UNDERHANDED, DEVIOUS,& SURREPTITIOUS ITINERANT MOUNTEBANK
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Dan C New user 100 Posts |
Another way to do this if you don't have a personal fan is to just insert a screw halfway into the dowel and then chuck the screw into a cordless drill or driver. If you do this a lot it might also serve you well to create a "web" out of a piece of still plastic as a backboard. This could be held against the dowel by the screw.
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jimgerrish Inner circle East Orange, NJ 3209 Posts |
If you make your own "mouth coils" you can roll them loosely enough to use as production "streamers." Instructions for making your own coils are found in The Wizards' Journal #5 for those who don't know how its done. To use as production streamers rather than the standard mouth coil or hand coil use, make them loose and narrower than you would normally make them. That way you get twice as many from the same width of tissue paper.
Jim Gerrish
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TheRaven Special user 597 Posts |
I hope nobody asks how to rewind used mouth coils...
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
I used to rewind mylar coils for my act for years. It was a 1" x 150' coil that recoiled into a 2" diameter coil. I took to tape reels or wooden disc and put them on a pencil or dowel rod. I use tape around the barrel of the pencil to snug them to the right depth. I put a piece of narrow strapping tape stuck to another piece on both ends of the coil. The one disc has another hole in it that the tail feeds out through. Now I chuck the whole thing up in my Southbend lathe. Running it in reverse, I rewind the coil. You have to straighten the twists in the coil before you rewind it all. I secure it all with a rubber band on the outside. The strapping tape tab gives me something easy to pull to start the coil. Hope that helps. You can also use a drill to chuck up the winder.
Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
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jimgerrish Inner circle East Orange, NJ 3209 Posts |
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On Feb 20, 2017, TheRaven wrote: First, dry up all the spit.
Jim Gerrish
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