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MagicRichyRich New user 32 Posts |
Hi there,
I just created my own triumph deck with a bunch of extra cards lying around...I was wondering what is the best way to perform and show the final reveal that their card is the only one turned over? Is it ok just to turn the deck over or should I finish shuffling and have the deck showing face down side and secretly turn it over? Does it matter? thanks in advance! |
Stanyon Inner circle Landrum, S.C. by way of Chicago 3433 Posts |
"Triumph" is not a deck, "Triumph" is an effect!
FWIW
Stanyon
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whiteoakcanyon Special user 899 Posts |
MagicRichyRich welcome to the Magic Café. You are correct to be concerned with the best way to maximize the impact of the "final reveal" as it is a very important moment in the presentation. I am not familiar with your version of Triumph, I perform a version which uses an ordinary ungimmicked deck. There are often many was to accomplish the same effect I am just not personally familiar with a method using a "triumph deck". That said, I am always working with all of the magic and mentalism I do to fine tune the presentations by watching how the audience reacts. I find that the audience is a great "teacher" as long as I am open to learning from their reaction. I hope this helps. Michael Ammar is a great resource for learning card magic, his DVD "Easy To Master Card Mirracles Volume One" includes a performance and explanation of Triumph and many other very strong card tricks. Good luck going forward.
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Doug Trouten Elite user Minnesota 471 Posts |
With Triumph, you have two magical results:
1. The cards are now all facing the same way except for one. 2. The one card that's different is the selected card. If you reveal the cards face-up, then turn over the selection, you get two "wow" moments. If you reveal the cards face-down the selected card can be seen and identified, so those "wow" moments happen together. I've heard arguments for both approaches. Personally I think it's better to spread the cards face-down, and put those magical moments together. If you spread the deck face-up and the audience sees that one card is face-down, they will correctly guess that it is the selected card and this takes some of the "kick" out of the second climax. I'd rather not follow a strong climax with one that's not as strong, so I think it's better to do them together.
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RobertlewisIR Veteran user Colorado 367 Posts |
Doug's reasoning is correct, but I actually go the other way. I think it's better to get two "beats" of magic out of it. However, because I don't want my audience to get too far ahead of me, I don't wait for them to react to the first moment. I spread, then reveal the reversed card almost immediately. It's almost like the magic moments are together, but spread out for two separate beats. That way, I'm not following a climax with a weaker climax, but I'm not cramming both magic moments together, either.
~Bob
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Joe Conry New user 9 Posts |
What on Earth is a Triumph deck?
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karnak Special user Connecticut 747 Posts |
I believe he's really referring to a "Cheek to Cheek" deck, a gaffed deck that makes possible a non-sleight-of-hand, virtually self-working version of the "Triumph" effect.
I only just learned about "Cheek to Cheek" decks very recently myself, after reading this thread and then doing some followup searches elsewhere. So I just bought one, and am learning the routine now. Due to the nature of the gaffed deck, there's only one option for the big reveal at the end: you have to spread the pack face down, showing the lone face-up selected card. It isn't possilbe with a "C2C" deck to spread them all face up, showing a lone face-down card which you then turn over to reveal as the selected card (so no extra separate "wow" moment of that sort).
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Sidney A. Salmans New user 45 Posts |
Karnak is correct. A Cheek-to-Cheek deck. I agree with Whiteoakcanyon, you should eventually learn the Triumph; and yes, Michael Ammar is a great video set. But, if you still want to use the Cheek-to-Cheek deck, you could learn The Flop (as described on Daryl's Card video set). Once, while at the magic shop, the proprietor showed that trick with the Cheek-to-Cheek, and then I showed the same trick to the person, using a regular deck, and he said, "Oh, I see you have one of those decks." Then I handed the deck to him. There are two other versions that I like: Larry Jennings Stand-Up Triumph, and Jay Sankey's version.
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