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On Nov 11, 2017, funnyclown wrote:... you must get the proline rings. But except to wait a few months to get them but trust me worth the wait.


What is the wait time for an email response from Proline?
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I’ll be honest. I love his proline linking rings. They are nothing like the Owens rings. They are at least ten times better. BUT I did wait a long time. I sent tons of emails. Wondering if I’m ever going to get the rings. Cliff had lots of problems lots of reasons for the delays. Some were valid. Some I don’t know. But in the end Cliff was honest with me. I got everything that was promised. It took about eight months. I was promised when I first ordered they’d be done in one month. I’m so glad I got my proline rings and nice velvet bag to hold them.
I’ll admit I took a risk. But proline is honestly the best rings you could ever buy. I even bought his proline sucker oriental style die box. It’s anazing also. Well made. If I needed to buy another set of rings or another product, I would do it because you’ll never find a better set or magic prop anywhere.
I believe he is honest and you’ll get your stuff. You’ll just need to send a bunch of emails. You’ll need to wait a long time. He does respond to emails and Facebook messages .
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I've been waiting for two years to receive a custom table which I paid for IN FULL. I still haven't received it. PLUS, he's holding $500.00 worth of custom merchandise to be placed within the custom table.
I don't recommend using Proline.
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I have hollow stainless Owen rings 12 inch size and they have served me well for more than 20 years. I also have hollow aluminum rings in a set of three with locking m------c k-- that I bought from Tannens. They are dull in sound but otherwise work well and the k-- is nearly invisible.

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You cannot compare the hollow aluminum sound of Tannan to the Proline set. Comparing both Proline has the resonance of a true musical instrument. There is no other set like it. The only problem is Proline take a very long time to make it.
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For those of you shopping... Joe Porper has 16" rings and 12" rings with examinable locking key in stock and on sale for the holidays.
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I never thought that sound was that relevant to the audience. Over 30 years ago, my wife told she how hated the clanging sound of the rings and said if it were real magic there would be no sound at all. That was a brilliant observation and she was right! Accordingly, that is the premise on which I developed my two linking ring routines. While eliminating sound entirely is impossible, the rings are a beautiful illusion when presented with this concept in mind to music. Richard Ross' brilliant three-ring routine is a perfect illustration of what I'm talking about.

Incidentally, my rings are Owen made. I have the 10", 12" and 15" rings. Owen makes the best locking ring I've ever seen, although I generally use the key. I also own the 8" Merv Taylor orb rings.
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Many people might agree with your wife.
When I was a boy, my mother made me practice... in the basement.
Her distaste for random clanging (from her auditory perspective) heavily influenced my appoach to the rings and I created a nearly silent two ring routine in 1978 or so.
This is a video of me doing almost 35 years ago... on the Tonight show!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdUaDxXt84A&t=137s

(START at the 2:25 minute point)
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JNeal-

What a wonderful performance!
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Doc!

glad you enjoyed it...

sooner or later (hoping for sooner) I am going to put the whole thing on a teaching DVD.
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Wow JNeal, superior!
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Thanks John!
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On Dec 11, 2017, JNeal wrote:
Doc!

glad you enjoyed it...

sooner or later (hoping for sooner) I am going to put the whole thing on a teaching DVD.


I'll certainly buy it... there are some really neat moves in that routine!
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Most of the 'new' moves were of my own creation and would be included in the teaching DVD.
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JNeal,

The rt was great but, the last unlink genius!
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I had forgotten how good that performance was. Smile
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Thanks Pete and Carbone for the fine words..
Carbone, If the RI on your Avatar stands for Rhode Island, I am delighted to be acquainted with another RI guy! I was born in Boston, but spent my school years in RI and it was home for most of my magical life before I moved to LA.

I will be doing that ring routine and performing a show and lecture at the NEMCON in Connecticut in March... Perhaps you will be there?

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I've been watching this post for a while and I have something to add. I've owned both and both ring sets had their pros and cons, let me share my experience with you on both sets and the service I received from both manufacturers.
First I wanted Owen rings for the longest time thinking they were the Rolls Royce of magic. The high praise and high price would have made you think that. Here is what the experience was like.
I purchased a set of 12" rings which at the time was very expensive, I waited two weeks for them to arrive. When they came I hurried to open them out are had to start working with them right away.
After about 30 minutes of admiring the ring tone and doing some very basic links I did a crash link (not hard) and the little plug at the end of the key popped out.
I was stunned, I called Owens and got some grumpy guy on the phone, I explained to him what happened and he promptly told me "our rings don't do that you must have abused them". No, just a simple common move everyone does. I asked at this price don't you offer any warranty on defective material or workmanship? He said again "no you abused them". Okay we are getting no where.
I took the key and glued the plug back in using a product called E6000. It held and the rings were fine. I quit doing business with Owens...
When Proline released their rings I was amazed with the price and ordered a set of 12". I wasn't disappointed, they arrived within a couple of weeks and when I received them they were perfect.
The only drawback was the dark grey deposits left on the hands by the aluminum, once I found our rubbing them with Armor-All cured this issue they became my favorite.
Sometimes life happens and financial issues come up which it did for me and I sold both sets to cover my rent. I regretted doing this with a caveat.
I didn't miss the Owens rings a bit, I missed the Proline rings.
Eventually I purchased a 3 Ring Locking Key from Proline that I still use today.
I've never had any issues with Cliff, my dealings with him have been friendly, on time, and product of superior quality.
My two cents.

Also JNeal I have seen your routine several times over a couple of decades and it is still pure artistry and the finest two ring routine I've ever seen. Thanks for the video I can't quit watching.
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