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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
For those of you who love The Chinese Sticks, you may want to check these out:
http://www.magicinc.net/kochstickschines......ick.aspx |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Very nice, but after 50 years, I have yet to find or see a fantastic patter routine.
Where are the great comedy script writers of yesteryear? A ton of tricks and props, but no patter that is funny. |
Wizard of Oz Inner circle Most people wish I didn't have 5155 Posts |
I saw those Rainboguy. They look beautiful.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
Bill Hegbli.....you are correct. How do you go about making the Chinese Sticks entertaining.....and funny?
I like Kyle Eschen's Chinese Sticks routine....and it works for HIM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cnqukzNm28 Wizard of Oz: Yes..They look beautiful to me, too! But with a set of custom-made Kovari sticks, a set of Norm Nielsen's Okito Chinese Sticks, and a set of George Milward wood-finished sticks do I really need another set? I must admit that I'm a sucker for beautifully-made classic Magic props.... |
gimpy2 Special user 960 Posts |
Heres another nice set http://www.gimpysmagic.com/madrst.html
Gimpy
www.gimpysmagic.com |
thomasR Inner circle 1189 Posts |
Kyle's routine is the first one I thought of as well...
"If I had real magical powers I would do this all day" |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Kyle's routine is not available for use. If you do, it is stealing another's person routine. Kyle is a up and coming performer, and I hope he does well with a magic career.
I am speaking of people like Lu Brent, Sid Lorraine, Don Lawton, and others that wrote excellent patter for their tricks and others. |
thomasR Inner circle 1189 Posts |
Quote:
On Apr 25, 2017, Bill Hegbli wrote: You mean conmercially available right? It's up to Kyle to decide if its available or not. |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I mean it not available for stealing a word or sentence that Kyle speaks in his act, and how he delivers it.
I don't believe Kyle has marketed his patter commercially, therefore, if another person uses it, it is stealing. Sure contact him, and offer to buy his patter. But much of his patter is dependent on his character and delivery style, so it won't do others much good anyway. |
Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
Bill Hegbli......Right............that is why I said "I like Kyle Eschen's Chinese Sticks routine....and it works for HIM."
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
RAinboguy, it seemed you were responding to my comment. So I was casually hinting at any source there might be for patter for the Chinese Sticks.
I have all I could find, and Ken Brooke sent a copy of some sheets from some source, and it totally did not make any sense to me, at least for the sticks. I think there has been more patter suggestions over the years for the Pom Pom stick, then the Chinese Sticks. The Roy Benson mumbling is not the best patter, in my opinion. In the old days of the 1940's and 1950's it worked in many of the old movies as well. I don't think today it would work today. Wayne Dobson is just to suggestively dirty to my liking. |
thomasR Inner circle 1189 Posts |
While not commercial... Ron Wilson had his famous Chinese sticks that looked like bag pipes.
Is there a routine in Conjuring Anaology? I Will look it up. |
thomasR Inner circle 1189 Posts |
"Tassels of Abbundant Enterprise" is Jims answer to the Chinese sticks in conjouring. A mix of Chinese sticks and Pom pom... Very clever as usual.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
Any comment on this Fred Kaps performance? Part of the charm is Caps himself. The Sticks begin at about 4:15 in the video.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
Magnus:
Thank you for posting that link, I appreciate it. Since you asked for comments, for what it's worth, and in all due respect to Fred Kaps being one of the all-time greats, in my opinion, his version of The Chinese Sticks was NOT one of his greatest performances. Just my 2 cents worth. |
Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
What do you find lacking, Rainboguy?
It felt a bit flat to me, too. The good part is that Kaps handles the sticks brilliantly. With many performers (including Kyle Eschen, IMO) the secret isn't so secret, but Kaps's movements all look beautifully natural. But his whole premise and patter are cute but not very magical. And I'm not sure what he could do to fix that.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I believe the feeling I get from Kaps presentation is simply the patter flow. Asking questions of the audience, instead of demonstrating the action of the sticks and tassels.
It is a simple solution that will take it from a puzzle to a mystery. As a matter of fact, I think it would have been better to use the word mystery, instead of puzzle. By the way, those were the Nemo Chinese Sticks sold by Ken Brooke Magic Place back in the 1970's. They are very smooth working, and heavy. I have a set, they cost $100.00 back then, and that would be $1000 today. Ken Brooke did not offer the 3rd stick, kind of wish he would have back then. |
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