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On May 20, 2017, Bobby Forbes wrote:
Hey Bob. I can't say for sure but if it's not on the pinky break and double lift section of the dvds, then it will be on the "tilt" section. He uses it as a one handed tilt get ready as well.

As I mentioned earlier. I'll be sure to include that in the video clip.
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Hey Bob, wondering if you had success with this secret manoeuvre.
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Nice of you to ask, magicfish. I tried for a while and was never able to make the move work consistently. It may be time to look at your video and other sources again. As you know, I'm sure, sometimes the best way to learn something is to try it, give up on it for a while, and then come back to it. It's a great move and I'd still like to learn it.



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P. S. I just watched your video again. The problem I had, and am still having, is that I can't get the top card to pop up except by applying pressure at the outer right *corner* of the deck. Besides being a bit painful, this tends to make the top card curl up a bit in front. In your video you pressed your left index finger on the outer part of the deck, but not so close to the corner. I've been trying to do the same, without success.


By the way, your marlo tilt is amazing! I guess that shouldn't surprise me, but I've seen so many blatantly unconvincing attempts on youtube that I was skeptical as to the effectiveness of the move.



Queen Elizabeth is still going strong; do you think there will be an Elizabeth day eventually, in addition to Victorial Day (which you mentioned in your video)?



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Ha! Thanks for the kind words Bob. Remember, the index finger can do the work -but it shouldn't- it is just a stopper. The imperceptible outward, leftward pressure from the thumb does the work.
You will get it one day.
Hopefully our Queen lives for many more years. Thankyou for asking.
Happy New Year!
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Happy New Year to you too, magicfish. You know, I think I *will* get it one day. My DL has really been coming in lately, along with some other sleights, so there's a precedent for my getting things eventually. .


Thanks for the tip about the index finger being just a stopper.
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By the way fellas, as I do not reveal nor expose magic secrets online, I've made the video private. Any members here who are interested in this (these) techniques, just send me a private message and I would be glad to show you.
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Bob, I'm just really happy about the way you have been going about finding this information. 99 percent of the kids today just look for a YouTube explanation!. Well done sir! The only thing that I might add is that if you give the deck a slight convex bend, this might help with the move just a bit. If your deck is slightly concave, you're fighting against the cards. You can also push the top card forward a minute amount before doing the move. This can help you get a feel for the way the card should move. It should not really pop but really "breathe" into position.
Also great for a double lift get ready. While you are gesturing with the card in your right hand, do the pop-up move with your left before setting the card back on top.
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Thanks for the tips, Ed, and for your description of the card "breathing into position." I'll try all this out.



By the way -- I'm afraid I'm going to burst your bubble here -- although I'm a newcomer to magic, I'm a few years from retirement. (Magic was supposed to be a retirement project, but I got hooked!) But you know, I'll bet that *every* generation of older people has complained about "kids these days." I do it myself sometimes. But as a college teacher, I'm well aware that young people are just like the rest of us -- doing the best they can with what they've got. (I hope you didn't mind my getting on a soapbox there. I hereby step down!)


Note to magicfish: I had a little time to try your advice yesterday (use the index finger just as a stop), and had some success with it.


Note to everybody: take magicfish up on his offer: his video is fun and illuminating.
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If you'd like, I can make a tutorial of the pinky count. I also teach it here with a bunch of other swell tricks:


http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/7993

Now get off my lawn!
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Ha ha! That's funny, Ed. I promise to stay off your lawn and to hand in my homework on time.



Thanks for the kind offer to make a tutorial of the pinky count. One of the great things that's happened during my short pursuit of magic (about a year and a half so far) is that the pinky count came in quite quickly for me. I learned it mostly from Card College, and paid careful attention to Giobbi's advice that strength was secondary; rather it was a question of finding the right grip for your hand. That was unusual -- most sleights take me forever to learn.


So, I don't need the tutorial, but I'll check into your penguin video (if it is a video). Thanks for all your help.


Okay, I'm going now.
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Hi Ed,


I put your lecture on my wish lis after reading the reviews and watching the trailer. (Magic is far too addictive; I'm budgeting myself.) If the $30 will also buy me your sense of humor, I'll certainly purchase it!


Seriously, though, it looked like a really fun and startling collection of tricks. Could give me an idea of which sleights your tricks require (perhaps in a PM)? I'm nowhere near ready to learn to palm, for instance, so I may want to put this collection off until I'm more advanced.


Thanks,


Bob
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Thanks for your interest. When I designed these tricks, I was not thinking in terms of difficulty, but entertainment value only. Magic is my sole profession ( OK, I've been known to twist a balloon or two) so I have to design tricks that will feed my wife and two kids.



Visual Card to Pocket- A selected card placed inside the pocket VISUALLY makes its reappearance on top of the deck. You audience sees the magic happening! A quick and highly visual effect that has your audience asking for more!

Admittedly this is the tough one of the bunch. But if you're interested in learning the one hand top you could do worse. You will also learn a double left from the center of the deck.

What’s Yours is Mine- A sandwich trick with a very unexpected ending. The use of word-play keeps your audience engaged and laughing UNTIL you clobber them with the unexpected. Unlike most sandwich effects, this can play bigger than others of its ilk.

Zarrow Block addition- Essentially a double lift. Nothing hard here.

Pocket Pool- A very practical and visually stunning production of an eight ball. A playing card with an eight-ball decal visually leaves the card, at the same time becoming a real ball! The card (minus the eight-ball) has mysteriously turned into a previous selection. Big woo woo!

Just a control of the card to the top of the deck. Use your favorite. I also teach the Tamariz Crossing the Gaze switch. I actually don't switch anything, but it is a wonderful piece of misdirection.

Little Kreskin- Two cards are selected and lost in the deck. The spectator draws a stick-man picture of their own on the back of a business card. Not only does their stick-man find their cards, but a mysterious message appears that predicted their selections.

A card control and the Bill Simon prophecy move. Easy peasy.

Your’s Truly- Ed’s take on the Chicago Opener/Red Hot Mama. A very funny presentation with a transpo aspect not found in most. This is the routine Ed uses to quickly establish his character while evoking a major league reaction from his audience.

My work horse routine. Double lift and a few nuances on the Hindu shuffle force. Nothing hard here.

Psychic Fail- A super easy to do effect that produces an inverse reaction to the amount of work involved. This is how David Acer described it: “A quick easy card trick with built in laughs and a surprising revelation of a chosen card. It’s a walk-around alternative to the McCombical Prediction and a worker plain and simple.”

I closed with this at the Magic Castle. Just a stinking card force.

As a special bonus to those who buy this lecture, Ed includes a separate video performance and explanation of his effect "The Poker Players Pickup" a.k.a. "The Contest. We won't spoil the surprise describing it but will tell you what a few others think about this routine. John Bannon called this the "Best. Party. Trick. Ever. What a great trick!". Michael Weber (who uses this trick regularly) says "If Ed teaches nothing more than The Contest, you'll receive more value than you find in most lectures.

Self working

The man from West Palm Beach: Optional palm, Houdini card change aka Erdnade card change double lifts-

By and large most of the routines utilize beginning to intermediate sleights.

Napkin vanish from Tarbell is on there. What a beautiful piece of magic! I use it all the time. Very easy

Like I said, I use this stuff to make a living.
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Thanks for the extra info, Ed. If you aren't tired of answering my questions, what's different about Yours Truly from the standard Chicago Opener Plot? I'm not asking for secrets, just what happens that's different (and of course degree of difficulty). You said transpo, but I'd be curious when happens in the proceedings. One thing that bothers me about the standard plot (even though it's a great trick) is that there's a loose end: we never find out what happened to the spectator's first selection. So I kinda wondered if the transpo was related to that loose end. I like Dan Fleshman's version (Momma to my Wallet) because he does tie up that loose end -- but I'm not ready for palming yet, as I may have said.


A person who can make his/her living from magic has all my admiration. I realize your point is that your tricks are practical to perform, but I still think it's quite a triumph -- so to speak -- to make a living that way. I'm content to keep magic as a hobby and see how far it takes me. Across the living room to show a new trick to my wife may be how far it goes -- and that would be fine.


Good luck with those balloons!
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