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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts 
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1. Hands up if you have an opinion about the US's withdrawal from the agreement.
2. Hands up if you actually read the agreement, or understood the binding mechanisms, or any of its practical consequences. 3. Hands up if you understand the claim that the single largest emitter is being treated unfairly by being asked to be part of the clean-up.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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Start at unfccc.int/paris_agreement
27 pages
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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No preconceived bias in that post LOL.
Danny Doyle
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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Tons Danny. I've done my reading.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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Out of pure curiosity has any of that been on economic studies involved with compliance?
I mean certainly we agree that life does not happen in a vacuum right? There ARE economic implications to compliance are there not? Has any of your reading been about that? I have not read the report for I am certainly not qualified to understand much of what is in it. May as well have a monkey read it. SO I am NOT questioning anything in it or if you have understood or read it. I am not saying it is right or wrong or anything of the sort. I'm asking an economics question.
Danny Doyle
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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Compliance with the proposed vague guidelines... carbon credit futures... liabilities meets externalities...
Fiscal fantasy
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On Jun 2, 2017, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: Who made claim 3?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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On Jun 2, 2017, LobowolfXXX wrote: The President of the United States. Quote:
But the bottom line is that the Paris Accord is very unfair, at the highest level, to the United States. Of course, one could argue that his point was not that clean-up in general is unfair, but that this particular agreement is. I'm not sure that that's a nit worth picking.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On Jun 2, 2017, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: I thought that China was the single largest emitter. Your "nit not worth picking" is the crux of a pretty gross mischaracterization of what was said. His comments - in particular the comment that you excerpted - was clearly about one particular agreement, and in the same speech, he indicated an openness to enter into a different agreement. You know perfectly well that he didn't say or suggest that it was unfair "to be asked to be part of the cleanup."
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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There is a difference between an accord and an agreement. There is a difference between reading and understanding.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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Shootings in Paris, real.
Puppet show in Paris... not sure if the green armbands and carbon courts are ready to sign into law..yet.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Accord connotes free will, voluntary act, as opposed to an agreement, which connotes binding. An accord is merely a harmony of opinion, where one party might reconsider and withdraw; which is that which has happened in the case in question. IMHO, I mean, it is a legal matter and I am not a lawyer, but that is I think the essential difference. One might be sued perhaps for breaking an agreement or a treaty but not an accord, I think.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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But Tommy. Kyoto Protocol and emissions trading. Think of the billions.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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On Jun 2, 2017, LobowolfXXX wrote: I think I see the problem with the online sources. The time frame is relevant.   It appears that for recent years, China is the top annual emitter; and for longer time spans the US is the top cumulative emitter. Both interesting and relevant statistics.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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What's today's price for a Kyoto quota unit?
New Zealand has been trading NZU for years.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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 Think of the billions of what? People really have not yet grasped what they mean by transformation of the world economy. The world economy as we know it today runs on money. To actually transform the world’s economy, one must transform, change, the money, to something else, which will be energy credits. The bankers, as usual, will be in control of the new transformed economy.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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Change the money = profit from exchange of currency? (denominated in dollars => carbon units)
The first Star Trek movie had a line about the Enterprise being infested with carbon units.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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So John was any of that reading economic?
Danny Doyle
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On Jun 2, 2017, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: Gotcha...thanks!
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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