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Oh my lord you are a one note song. Yes the military and America suck. Satisfied?

What exactly is your solution to fight evil in the World? Or do you somehow think WWII would have stayed confined within only the geographic borders of those who wanted to participate?

I get it war is bad. But is being conquered any better somehow in your mind?

You seem to have so many complaints and never solutions. What is your solution to our military? Tip to tail what is your alternative? And to capitalism. What other solutions do you have front to back? It is easy to complain and point out faults. Can go all day no problem. Now offer solutions that work in the world and not a vacuum. Otherwise it is hot air and nothing more.
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"Fighting evil in the world?" define that!! Lynn
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Some guys show up and bomb Pearl Harbor. Start with that.

I'm not talking about being a world cop. I am talking about the ability to defend oneself. Unless you simply believe it is not necessary. Then discussion over. If you really believe with no standing army we would never be in a war or in danger there is no need for discussion.
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, when the main polluters by far are the militaries of the world. Cut out the warmongering and climate change will have a chance of being solved. Without that, you can recycle to your heart's content.


Got a source for that, Jack? This report says that the war in Iraq was contributing about 43MT of carbon emission. Not sure if that number is just for the US or for all military action combined.

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UNL researchers Adam Liska and Richard Perrin estimate that emissions of heat-trapping gases resulting from military protection of supertankers in the Persian Gulf amount to 34.4 million metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalent a year. In addition, the war in Iraq releases another 43.3 million metric tons of CO2 annually.

"Our conservative estimate of emissions from military security alone raises the greenhouse gas intensity of gasoline derived from imported Middle Eastern oil by 8 to 18 percent."


These are significant numbers, but given the US's total emissions are around 6GT annually, it's hard to see how the military is "by far" the main polluter. A significant polluter, to be sure, but I'm not seeing evidence of your "by far" claim.
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Also to discourage personal commitment to recycling is absurd. Yes one person can make a difference.

Ourpersonal commitment may very well be all we get in this and it certainly is the ONLY thing we can control.
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The very term environmental science was coined by Nazi military scientists, brought into the USA after World War II under operation paperclip to study the effects of Nukes on the climate. Not many know that. JFK spoke at the UN about controlling the weather and using it as weapon circa 1960s. War is essentially about control of resources and that is what it's all about Alfie. Smile
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Speaking of recycling and renewable energy -

http://www.intelligentnow.org/2017/06/sw......ary.html

You put a heavy tax on fossil fuels and look what happens.
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Also to discourage personal commitment to recycling is absurd. Yes one person can make a difference.

Our personal commitment may very well be all we get in this and it certainly is the ONLY thing we can control.


I recycle myself. But I am under no illusions that that is going to solve climate or pollution problems. Historically, the way that individuals have made large differences in the world is by uniting with others and working on changing things on a systemic basis. Rosa Parks made a large difference in the world because she was part of a concerted campaign to overthrow Jim Crow in the South, not because she alone didn't get up from her bus seat one day. The history there is interesting and relevant.

John, if you look back at my post, I mentioned the militaries of the world. If the US alone is responsible for the amount your source says, then the world military contribution is an essential component to the solution.
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The interrelation between the emissions and the economy and our apparent ability to control either one with the other is the very definition of climate science. Obviously, when the economy is up then so is emissions and vice versa. The first thing that comes out the charts is that carbon emissions have grown strongly, and at 33 billion tons are now 40% higher than in 2000. In fact, they have grown every single year – with the notable exception of 2009, when the world economy was coping with the devastating effects of the global financial crisis. The global financial crisis is then what cutting carbon emissions will look like. A global financial crisis is then what these large parades full of hysterical climate change advocates, who are the best example of manipulation-by-propaganda that exists today, who have adopted a cause without knowing the facts or the promoters, and they treat it more as a religion than a secular cause, who rely on sex perverts at Snopes, etcetera, want. Or rather that is all they will get, whether they want it or know it or not if they get their way.
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Some guys show up and bomb Pearl Harbor. Start with that.

I'm not talking about being a world cop. I am talking about the ability to defend oneself. Unless you simply believe it is not necessary. Then discussion over. If you really believe with no standing army we would never be in a war or in danger there is no need for discussion.


Self defense does not necessarily equal "fighting evil in the world"! One could start with Pearl Harbor; but one could also start with killing the Native Americans or the institution of slavery. You read too much in my single question. Lynn
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Keeping evil from attacking you is maybe a better way to put it.

How do you stop evil from opening your door and hurting you with no army?
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Keeping evil from attacking you is maybe a better way to put it.

How do you stop evil from opening your door and hurting you with no army?


Open to suggestions about that. The problem of evil in the world has been with us for a very long time.
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On Jun 4, 2017, Dannydoyle wrote:
Keeping evil from attacking you is maybe a better way to put it.

How do you stop evil from opening your door and hurting you with no army?


We're not stopping them from hurting us with the army. According to the talking heads we're in more danger than ever before.

Maybe a better way would be to not do evil things which create more evil people; and at the same time use the money to fix our own problems.

And absolutely NO ONE has said to do away with the army...btw.
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Quote by Club of Rome: "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....All these dangers are caused by human intervention....and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself....believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is “a real one or….one invented for the purpose."

How do we stop an invented evil?

Do we give it a sacifice perhaps?

Maybe if we behalf the way the high priests tell us to and give it loads of cash then it will leave us alone?

How about we give it a trillion dollars a decade to start with?
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"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill.


I am certainly happy for you that you live in a world where pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages and famines are only fantasies.

Perhaps one day you might tell those of us who live on the imperfect Earth just how that was achieved on your planet.
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On Jun 4, 2017, Dannydoyle wrote:
Keeping evil from attacking you is maybe a better way to put it.

How do you stop evil from opening your door and hurting you with no army?


We're not stopping them from hurting us with the army. According to the talking heads we're in more danger than ever before.

Maybe a better way would be to not do evil things which create more evil people; and at the same time use the money to fix our own problems.

And absolutely NO ONE has said to do away with the army...btw.


So nobody is doing anything evil that America didn't cause?
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Keeping evil from attacking you is maybe a better way to put it.

How do you stop evil from opening your door and hurting you with no army?


We're not stopping them from hurting us with the army. According to the talking heads we're in more danger than ever before.

Maybe a better way would be to not do evil things which create more evil people; and at the same time use the money to fix our own problems.

And absolutely NO ONE has said to do away with the army...btw.


So nobody is doing anything evil that America didn't cause?


Here's a gift for you Danny -

http://constitutionus.com/

Now, you have said on MANY occasions, that you're not equal to the task of understanding complicated issues; but since I read and understood it when I was eight, so you should be able to muddle through.

Take your time and read it through; then get back to me.

It's important.
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How do we stop an invented evil?

Do we give it a sacifice perhaps?

Maybe if we behalf the way the high priests tell us to and give it loads of cash then it will leave us alone?

How about we give it a trillion dollars a decade to start with?


No. We be nice to them, welcome them into our country with open arms, adhere-submit to "their god" because if we all don't they WILL kill everyone that doesn't (but that's only a minor point) and agree that climate change is happening and going to cause devastation! Once we do all these things "they" will leave us alone.
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How do we stop an invented evil?


Well, we could stop indoctrinating our children with hate filled dogma of all types, and prevent evil from being invented in the first place.

If only for the new experience.
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On Jun 4, 2017, Dannydoyle wrote:
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On Jun 4, 2017, NYCTwister wrote:
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On Jun 4, 2017, Dannydoyle wrote:
Keeping evil from attacking you is maybe a better way to put it.

How do you stop evil from opening your door and hurting you with no army?


We're not stopping them from hurting us with the army. According to the talking heads we're in more danger than ever before.

Maybe a better way would be to not do evil things which create more evil people; and at the same time use the money to fix our own problems.

And absolutely NO ONE has said to do away with the army...btw.


So nobody is doing anything evil that America didn't cause?


Here's a gift for you Danny -

http://constitutionus.com/

Now, you have said on MANY occasions, that you're not equal to the task of understanding complicated issues; but since I read and understood it when I was eight, so you should be able to muddle through.

Take your time and read it through; then get back to me.

It's important.


You can be a condescending nit all you want. It still doesn't answer my questions. Being the world's foremost authority on everything and everyone else being an idiot why can't you just explain?

Being arrogant is not the same as being correct. Try being correct .

I have always questioned your understanding of the Constitution, though I do admit you have about the understanding an 8 year old would of it yes. Might be a good idea to read it again with a hopefully more developed brain.
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