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Mad Jake
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China has stepped up their game. Copy of new effects are coming out within weeks of the originals. The Gift in Gold is 12.96 with free shipping from Hong Kong. The really bad part about it, besides it being a rip off is that it's a GOOD Rip off. I don't know how they are doing it, but the quality of the copies are as just as good as the original. The one person who took a real hit was Joe Poper, now the Strong Box, Folding Key aren't really original ideas, they date back to the early 70's, I was able to trace something similar to the Strong box from Tannen's in 1971 that uses the same concept. The folding key, that's been around just as long. The really bad thing now is they are copying original routine books included with their version of the props, blatant copyright fraud.

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It is EXTREMELY possible that China made the originals of The Gift. This is what happens when you use Chinese manufacturing. They will run more than your contact run and sell them off. I have personally been privy to this happening. The big guys know it and just chalk it up to a price of doing business.
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Dang, OUCH.
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On Jun 10, 2017, Mad Jake wrote:
China has stepped up their game. Copy of new effects are coming out within weeks of the originals. The Gift in Gold is 12.96 with free shipping from Hong Kong. The really bad part about it, besides it being a rip off is that it's a GOOD Rip off. I don't know how they are doing it, but the quality of the copies are as just as good as the original. The one person who took a real hit was Joe Poper, now the Strong Box, Folding Key aren't really original ideas, they date back to the early 70's, I was able to trace something similar to the Strong box from Tannen's in 1971 that uses the same concept. The folding key, that's been around just as long. The really bad thing now is they are copying original routine books included with their version of the props, blatant copyright fraud.

Jake Jr.


I take it you know this because you bought the knock off?
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No, not actually bought it. I saw one and you can tell a slight difference but they are using the packaging and instructions too. I have the original Gold Gift. I have a lot of electronics work done in China and they also sent me some new servo's. It wasn't till I went to program the servo that I noticed that too was a copy., the sad part was it was better than the original manufacturer. My father and I have been in magic for over 30 years together and I've seen a lot., no no PAUL I DID NOT BUY The KNOCK OFF.
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There's been some discussion of this ...
https://www.amazon.com/Coming-China-Wars......9&sr=1-7
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Jonathan,
thank you for the link, I just bought the book. This should make for an interesting read. I noticed on ebay that there are some more Porper items coming out and they are including the original routines with them, they think by spelling Joe's last name wrong
it changes things. Well it kind of does, not only is it copyright infringement now it is also plagiarism. Correct me if I'm wrong Johnathan.

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Somehow the "right to make copies" and "copyright" don't seem to be translating too well there. I found a bad copy of Platt's Blackout coin item.

Lowered production costs are just part of the "China price".

I wish they'd direct their efforts as locally relevant magic.

Someone there's offering gold foil/paper banknotes - wonder how they are for money magic.
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I have quite a few Chu Magic effects from when I was younger. They made good effects and it was suited to their country of origin. Did they too fall victim of the cheap magic that was starting to show up.
I'll have to give China this much, their quality is better than India. Back when India was having all those mudslides I never wished harm on anyone but certainly wished it would take out some of their
magic factories. Gold foil bank notes LOL, that's like drawing a bill on gold leafing..
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There is a guy on FaceBook that sells these Chinese knock-offs. He advertises them as the actual effect, using the write up and creators name. When you receive the item he says different and the sales ad is gone. I had screen shots and he offered to let me ship it back and refund my money.
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The guys from utah?
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My new product ended up in Chinese sites in 2 days! :/
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On Jun 11, 2017, Tom Cutts wrote:
It is EXTREMELY possible that China made the originals of The Gift. This is what happens when you use Chinese manufacturing. They will run more than your contact run and sell them off. I have personally been privy to this happening. The big guys know it and just chalk it up to a price of doing business.


This is absolutely happening and Chinese magic sites are having their inventory provided with these products.
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