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That's a great routine Ben.
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On Jun 20, 2017, Sebastian Oudot wrote:
That's a great routine Ben.


Thank you! I have some different ideas in terms of the specific handling that I might share at some point if people seem interested. Thanks for watching!

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@ Patrick: Cool beans. I suspected that this was the case, but just thought I'd ask. Thanks!

BTW, I do LIKE this effect. I think some people may have misinterpreted what I was trying to get across. I was more or less thinking aloud. The point was simply that I'd not had a chance to road-test it yet in order to make comparisons - that's all. Anyways, I like the effect enough that I sent Ben a nice little presentational touch. Smile

To add to that, if Patrick's idea for openly constructing a stack works as nicely as has been mentioned, then it would remove the only "niggle" I had - I will get around to ordering this eventually.
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I think that Vindicator would benefit from shortening the process between the card selection and its revelation. For wonderful, sleightless and stackless impossible locations effects, I recommend Steve Beam’s SACT series.

Instead of parading as an impossible location effect, it’s possible to streamline Vindicator and make it completely hands off.

The effect could read something like this:

A spectator cuts the deck into 3 packets, pockets the top card of one of the packets and reconstitutes the deck. Without asking any question or touching the deck , the performer, who had his back turned, reveals the selected card.

Basically it’s the same effect and procedure without the spurious shuffles and with no handling from the performer. No shuffling is required as the card is not in the deck anyway and the stack will be easy to put back together - if required.

In the scenario where the middle packet is chosen, like in the demo, a marked deck will tell you all you need to know, otherwise a simplistic sleight while casing the deck will.
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Again, no marked deck is needed. Even if performed the way you mentioned above.
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I did not say a marked deck was required - as in the demo a p**k is all is needed and it's what I suggested in my original comment when I wrote "otherwise a simplistic sleight..." (rather than the obvious p**k demo'ed.) A stacked marked deck makes the effect completely hands off as the performer never touches the deck from start to finish.

I have not bought the effect, but the method is quite obvious to any magician who knows about the principle used. IMHO.

"Or Not" is not any more sophisticated either, but at least it's procedure free, or feels very much like it. Plus the performer does not ask any questions.

I like "Or Not" very much.
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You'd be amazed by how many people I've shown this to immediately tumble to "use a marked deck". Also, it seems that a lot of magicians have a phobia of anything that requires time, an investment of attention, and using one's personality to keep the audience interested. My routines are long on purpose. I expect my audience to pay attention, because I am sharing something important with them.

Anecdote:

My favorite jazz pianist, Keith Jarrett, has been known to walk out on his own concerts if he feels that his audience isn't paying close enough attention. Too many people think of Jazz as background music. In reality, it's something incredibly important, and worthy of the undivided attention of its listeners. I have the same attitude about my mentalism. I'm not trying to be a snob, but I respect both the art and myself enough as a performer not to throw away my power for an inattentive and unappreciative audience. If I don't get the quality of attention I feel my performances deserve, I don't perform in the first place.

I understand the commercial requirements that some performers have, but they have little to do with why I perform mentalism, and how I structure my routines. The obsession with shortening everything is not one that I share. Believe me, the majority of the hate mail I receive comes from magicians who complain about the length of my performances. If you don't like it, I have no problem with that. Knowing someone's card is trivial. Use your favorite method.

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And, as far as the method being obvious to magicians, that is something that has never been an important consideration for me. Although I am capable of fooling magicians, I see it as a fruitless endeavor.
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By he way folks, I don't recommend performing Vindicator until you see or read the explanation. There are some variables that can occur which require a slightly modified handling depending on certain choices the participant makes. Patrick has the explanation footage. I'd like to see it myself (even though I was the one explaining it), but I never got the chance to look at the playback.

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I liked the trick quite a bit, thanks for the video.
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On Jun 21, 2017, carlyle wrote:
I liked the trick quite a bit, thanks for the video.


Very kind of you to watch. I appreciate it very much!

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Although I am capable of fooling magicians, I see it as a fruitless endeavor.


This. 100% agreement from me on that sentiment. Smile
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On Jun 20, 2017, Sebastian Oudot wrote:
That's a great routine Ben.


Thank you! I have some different ideas in terms of the specific handling that I might share at some point if people seem interested. Thanks for watching!

Ben


Yes, eagerly awaiting this one. The wait does seem rather daunting at this point. I'm sure that it will be worth it. I'm going to have to make due with what I've got already.
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Incidentally, Patrick has my blessings to release the explanation footage at any time he pleases. But since I gave this effect to him, it's his decision ultimately.
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Great construction on this one Ben
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Great construction on this one Ben


Thank you so very much!

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Very nice effect Ben. I remember you shared a demo of this sometime back. I really like it.
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Very nice effect Ben. I remember you shared a demo of this sometime back. I really like it.


I did! I was a little more relaxed in that demo, but I made a few minor changes since filming it and the audio quality was poor. I wasn't thrilled with my performance on the current video, to be honest. I'm a little camera shy during a formal filming, and tend to stammer when I'm nervous. Sorry about that. Hopefully it wasn't too distracting. I also insisted on doing only one take. It would have been dishonest to do it any other way.

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Ben, I think the performance in this new demo was perfectly fine. No nervousness was apparent. I think that feeling of nervousness (if any) is only internal. I feel the same when I give talks at work. Other people say they didn't notice anything when I feel I was very nervous. I guess we sometimes evaluate ourselves more strictly than others.
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Incidentally, Patrick has my blessings to release the explanation footage at any time he pleases. But since I gave this effect to him, it's his decision ultimately.


The last he told me on Sat. that was he holding onto it.
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